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Million $ cash was ok, but not near High Stakes Poker I loved that show and I really hope there will be a season 5 Smile
The head line of the show is a scam, I thought since it was named Million $ cash they bought in for 1 Mil. but no, they all buy in for 100K execpt Patrik Antonius and Phil Ivey they buy in for 200K. This doesn't change the game ofcourse but still what a scam. In HSP(last season) they buy-in for min 500K and brad for 1Mil Cool
The thing Million $ cash was missing compared to HSP was the spirit around the table. It was so entertaining to hear all the bull talk in HSP which is missing in Mil cash.

     
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Ya, I seen Negreanu make some nice reads in a tournament. I seen it on youtube. He also makes some crazy reads on Poker After Dark too like folding a straight to Johnny Chan when Chan got lucky on got a full house on river.

I thought million dollar cash game would be 1mill each too..I got to download HSP too, only seen a few episodes on youtube.

     
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Oh really I wish I hadn't seen it so I could see it now lol Big Smile

GeneYuss You def. have to get High Stakes Poker in fullscreen and turn up the volume so you can hear the table talk instead of the stupid host's.

The show has the absolute best players in the world and they actually managed to get the funniest too. So sick when they play with the 7-2 rule Shock

Farha, Unabomber, Gus, Magician, Hellmuth crying etc etc they are all really great to watch.

Have you seen "I bet You" with Unabomber and Magician I love the way they allways compete. Gr8 humor Tongue
I heard "I bet you" season 2 is on it's way Smile

Edited by M3turbo (07 April 2008 @ 02:23 GMT)


     
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Ya, I seen a few episodes of HSP with 7-2 hands. And Matusow laughing when he won with it lol and Magician not showing it to keep a good table image I guess.

Ya, I watched "I bet You", that show is awesome Smile I watch it on youtube, thats cool they're going to have season 2 Smile I liked when Antonio pushed the girls on the roller blades, so funny Smile I wish they would do something with Jennifer Tilly in the show Smile

     
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Yeah forgot that name Mike the Mouth, have you seen him on The Mouth Peice if not, google it that man is crazy but not dumb though it seems like he really want to project him self as dumb.
Magician is allways sneaky like the opposite of Mike Smile
Haha you like those lungs im sure she'll be in the some of the new episodes.
The only thing Milllion $ cash had that High Stakes Poker was missing was the scoreboard, I liked that nice and easy to see who's up and who's down Dollar

     
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Cool, I'll check out The Mouth Piece.

And ya, I'm just watching Gus and the ladies on Poker After Dark. Just watching them on the computer cause they come on late at night. Damnit all in lol Smile Funny how all the girls were flirting with Gus when they are all taken but I guess its just for the show. Beth shak was flirting a lot lol..and she looks pretty for being 40. And Erica Schoenberg, oh lala Smile

     
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Yeah they collected some hot girls/ladies some of them not quite young anymore but I wouldn't pass if you know what i mean Tongue
I didn't know all of them, I knew ofcourse Clonie and also the girlie Vanessa I think and David B's girl the blond oh la la cant remember her name maybe the 1 you mentioned Erica.

By the way you helped me to help you, we talked about you wanting a pokertracker but was a bit cheap, go to pokerbay and search you'll find pokeroffice incl. key Blink

     
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I seen them all before but never watched Erica Schoenberg play. Ya, shes David B's wife. My name is David B lol, funny Smile I only seen Erica on poker babe of the week website or something like that. I heard shes in a strip poker video so I downloaded it and will watch it now Smile I heard it sucks but theres boobs in it so I'm going to watch it Smile Its on Poker Bay if you want to take a look. "carmen electras strip poker"

I seen Clonie on past episodes. Seen JJ Liu on WPT final table on TV and seen Beth Shak headsup for some big tournament.

I'll check out Poker Bay for pokeroffice, they had poker tracker but it was deleted.

     
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Oh la la as you would have said Big Smile I just got the strip vid. you were talking about, ty......mmm Erica thats my style Blink
I tried out the pokeroffice, no probs runs great, nice and easy to use which pokertracker is not. But not so nerdy detailed. But I like the fact that pokeroffice is like pokertracker+ all the add on's and extra programs. And not much changes needed for it to run perfectly only personal changes.


     
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haha Smile The strip video was a little boring so I fast forwarded to the good parts lol Smile

BTW, did you pay for poker tracker?

     
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Haha I didn't watch the complete tourney either, just the good parts Big Smile I think the only person actually playing poker at that table is Erica the rest of them just sitting there flashing their lovely BOOBS Big Smile

pokertracker: Nah like I said im pretty cheap too Big Smile but it is worth paying for Thumbs Up

you can find it same way we found pokeroffice, havent seen it lately but it must be cracked out there somewhere !

But not worth spending money on now that you got pokeroffice just my opinion.

Edited by M3turbo (14 April 2008 @ 12:49 GMT)


     
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Ya, I know. I watched the last hand where Erica had a flush draw and went all in, the other girl called with ace high and won. Not sure what the prize was.

Ya, I seen Pokertracker on pokerbay but I don't know why it was deleted. And ya, I guess pokeroffice is better, especially for ease of use. I seen a book on pokerbay for pokertracker lol. I guess you don't need a book for pokeroffice.

     
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Just today I heard in the live of Montecarlo EPT that 21 outs is the maximum you can have. I don't think they can be wrong.

     
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look at the examplestated before,

KsQs vs. 2d2h Flop is JsTsTc 71.46% 2.50 to 1.

9 outs for flush, 6 for open ender, 6 for live over cards = 21 outs plus 3 more outs for Jacks. That would be 24 outs all up. usually you cant get the outs for the baord pairing though cause no one is dumb enough to put their money in with just the underpair, that means that a flop where someone could call your bets and you had 21 outs could be something like

QsJs vs. AcTd Flop is Ts9s5c 71.46% 2.50 to 1

now you have twenty one outs and he has top pair top kicker, you would probably get a call or two out of this player



     
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Posted by GeneYuss:
Nope, I tested it out for myself. And there's lots of sites on it. Check it out at Berry G's site.

http://www.barrygreenstein.com/out-outs.htm

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KsQs vs. 2s2h Flop is JsTsTc 71.46% 2.50 to 1

Whoa, sweet! 23 outs on the flop

Aww crap! No its 22, cause the 2s is out!!!!! Big Smile Ooh Noo Aww crap! reverse: it would have been 24, had the 2s NOT been out... Confused

Edited by grindehvalen (17 April 2008 @ 21:46 GMT)


     
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no im new to poker so i dont really know what a out was i do now so far i only have a bout 3 outs flus draw str8 draw and trips most of the time hits nothing Smile

     
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Posted by grindehvalen:
Posted by GeneYuss:
Nope, I tested it out for myself. And there's lots of sites on it. Check it out at Berry G's site.

http://www.barrygreenstein.com/out-outs.htm

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KsQs vs. 2s2h Flop is JsTsTc 71.46% 2.50 to 1

Whoa, sweet! 23 outs on the flop

Aww crap! No its 22, cause the 2s is out!!!!! Big Smile Ooh Noo Aww crap! reverse: it would have been 24, had the 2s NOT been out... Confused


Str8: 6 outs 4*9's+4*A's (would be 8 but the 2 spades gives flush)
Flush: 8 outs ( would be 9 but opponent has one spade)
Overcards: 6 outs 3*K+3*Q
Board pair: 3 outs 3*J

     
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Posted by GeneYuss:
Posted by grindehvalen:
Posted by GeneYuss:
Nope, I tested it out for myself. And there's lots of sites on it. Check it out at Berry G's site.

http://www.barrygreenstein.com/out-outs.htm

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KsQs vs. 2s2h Flop is JsTsTc 71.46% 2.50 to 1

Whoa, sweet! 23 outs on the flop

Aww crap! No its 22, cause the 2s is out!!!!! Big Smile Ooh Noo Aww crap! reverse: it would have been 24, had the 2s NOT been out... Confused


Str8: 6 outs 4*9's+4*A's (would be 8 but the 2 spades gives flush)
Flush: 8 outs ( would be 9 but opponent has one spade)
Overcards: 6 outs 3*K+3*Q
Board pair: 3 outs 3*J


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