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I never know until I'm sitting in the position. There's times I'm allin and other times I want to see the flop. Just can't feel comfortable until I know there's no A out there. Guess that's you should just go for it like most of the Mobsters say.
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You really have to make a calcualtion as to where you are sitting, who you are playing against, what the odds are and whether you feel lucky. In most cases all in will scare some away and draw in others and you just have to hope the 244-1 chance someone has AA or that at A doesnt come along to pair up Ax.
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Just remember the Donk Gods are out there watching every hand, and when they see KK go allin they make 63 not suited call, and of course he gets his straight..
------------ this is what happpens in freerolls with KK I'm playing for my daughter in law , shes at my company picnic PokerStars Hand #81763567088: Tournament #568257505, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level I (25/50) - 2012/06/10 12:21:00 ET Table '568257505 103' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: gypsystile (500 in chips) is sitting out Seat 2: ponygirl33 (500 in chips) Seat 3: karunaki (500 in chips) Seat 4: rzwrazvan (500 in chips) is sitting out Seat 5: juliya01 (500 in chips) Seat 6: susiqiu (500 in chips) Seat 7: buzoni11 (500 in chips) is sitting out Seat 8: melvina87 (500 in chips) is sitting out Seat 9: Kate_Nova (500 in chips) ponygirl33: posts small blind 25 karunaki: posts big blind 50 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ponygirl33 [Ad Jh] rzwrazvan: folds juliya01: folds susiqiu: raises 250 to 300 buzoni11: folds melvina87: folds Kate_Nova: folds gypsystile: folds ponygirl33: raises 200 to 500 and is all-in karunaki: folds susiqiu: calls 200 and is all-in *** FLOP *** [Th 5d Ac] *** TURN *** [Th 5d Ac] *** RIVER *** [Th 5d Ac 9c] *** SHOW DOWN *** ponygirl33: shows [Ad Jh] (two pair, Aces and Fives) susiqiu: shows [Kd Ks] (two pair, Kings and Fives) ponygirl33 collected 1050 from pot susiqiu finished the tournament in 3298th place *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1050 | Rake 0 Board [Th 5d Ac 9c 5h] Seat 1: gypsystile (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: ponygirl33 (small blind) showed [Ad Jh] and won (1050) with two pair, Aces and Fives Seat 3: karunaki (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: rzwrazvan folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: juliya01 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: susiqiu showed [Kd Ks] and lost with two pair, Kings and Fives Seat 7: buzoni11 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: melvina87 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: Kate_Nova folded before Flop (didn't bet)
------------ and then again sometimes this happens okerStars Hand #81765796670: Tournament #564338065, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2012/06/10 13:16:20 ET Table '564338065 134' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: k.juditt7 (1390 in chips) is sitting out Seat 2: Viamont (3100 in chips) Seat 3: angela1995 (2635 in chips) Seat 4: veles8888 (160 in chips) is sitting out Seat 5: Pokermann518 (915 in chips) Seat 6: jjmp07 (4955 in chips) Seat 7: ponygirl33 (4390 in chips) Seat 8: MONICA363 (1365 in chips) is sitting out Seat 9: stinkata (4840 in chips) MONICA363: posts small blind 50 stinkata: posts big blind 100 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ponygirl33 [Kd Kc] k.juditt7: folds Viamont: folds angela1995: raises 100 to 200 veles8888: folds Pokermann518: folds jjmp07: folds ponygirl33: raises 4190 to 4390 and is all-in MONICA363: folds stinkata: folds angela1995: calls 2435 and is all-in Uncalled bet (1755) returned to ponygirl33 *** FLOP *** [8h Qc 3c] *** TURN *** [8h Qc 3c] *** RIVER *** [8h Qc 3c As] *** SHOW DOWN *** angela1995: shows [Jh Qd] (a pair of Queens) ponygirl33: shows [Kd Kc] (a pair of Kings) angela1995 is sitting out ponygirl33 collected 5420 from pot angela1995 finished the tournament in 2285th place *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 5420 | Rake 0 Board [8h Qc 3c As 2s] Seat 1: k.juditt7 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: Viamont folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: angela1995 showed [Jh Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens Seat 4: veles8888 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Pokermann518 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: jjmp07 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: ponygirl33 (button) showed [Kd Kc] and won (5420) with a pair of Kings Seat 8: MONICA363 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: stinkata (big blind) folded before Flop
------------ KK again PokerStars Hand #81766310254: Tournament #564338065, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2012/06/10 13:28:12 ET Table '564338065 116' 9-max Seat #9 is the button Seat 1: Helen1501 (2630 in chips) Seat 2: Lajos11 (1980 in chips) Seat 3: Xah-nv (3145 in chips) is sitting out Seat 4: shedevrs (1155 in chips) is sitting out Seat 5: irina4465484 (1290 in chips) is sitting out Seat 6: RndBaller (3730 in chips) Seat 7: GeckoAA (5895 in chips) Seat 8: BusKolya (6720 in chips) is sitting out Seat 9: ponygirl33 (10000 in chips) Helen1501: posts small blind 100 Lajos11: posts big blind 200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ponygirl33 [Ts 5d] Xah-nv: folds shedevrs: folds irina4465484: folds RndBaller: folds GeckoAA: calls 200 BusKolya: folds ponygirl33: folds Xah-nv has returned Helen1501: folds Lajos11: checks *** FLOP *** [2d Ad Tc] Lajos11: checks GeckoAA: checks *** TURN *** [2d Ad Tc] Lajos11: checks GeckoAA: bets 200 Lajos11: calls 200 *** RIVER *** [2d Ad Tc 7d] Lajos11: checks GeckoAA: checks *** SHOW DOWN *** Lajos11: shows [Jd 3c] (high card Ace) GeckoAA: shows [3s As] (a pair of Aces) GeckoAA collected 900 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 900 | Rake 0 Board [2d Ad Tc 7d Qs] Seat 1: Helen1501 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 2: Lajos11 (big blind) showed [Jd 3c] and lost with high card Ace Seat 3: Xah-nv folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: shedevrs folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: irina4465484 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: RndBaller folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: GeckoAA showed [3s As] and won (900) with a pair of Aces Seat 8: BusKolya folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: ponygirl33 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
------------ sorry copy and pasted the wrong hand PokerStars Hand #81766338099: Tournament #564338065, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2012/06/10 13:28:51 ET Table '564338065 116' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: Helen1501 (2530 in chips) Seat 2: Lajos11 (1580 in chips) Seat 3: Xah-nv (3145 in chips) Seat 4: shedevrs (1155 in chips) is sitting out Seat 5: irina4465484 (1290 in chips) is sitting out Seat 6: RndBaller (3730 in chips) Seat 7: GeckoAA (6395 in chips) Seat 8: BusKolya (6720 in chips) is sitting out Seat 9: ponygirl33 (10000 in chips) Lajos11: posts small blind 100 Xah-nv: posts big blind 200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ponygirl33 [Kh Kc] shedevrs: folds irina4465484: folds RndBaller: folds GeckoAA: folds BusKolya: folds ponygirl33: raises 800 to 1000 Helen1501: folds Lajos11: raises 580 to 1580 and is all-in Xah-nv: folds ponygirl33: calls 580 *** FLOP *** [Ac Qh 5s] *** TURN *** [Ac Qh 5s] *** RIVER *** [Ac Qh 5s Jh] *** SHOW DOWN *** Lajos11: shows [Ts Ad] (a pair of Aces) ponygirl33: shows [Kh Kc] (a pair of Kings) Lajos11 collected 3360 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3360 | Rake 0 Board [Ac Qh 5s Jh 8d] Seat 1: Helen1501 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: Lajos11 (small blind) showed [Ts Ad] and won (3360) with a pair of Aces Seat 3: Xah-nv (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: shedevrs folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: irina4465484 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: RndBaller folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: GeckoAA folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: BusKolya folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: ponygirl33 showed [Kh Kc] and lost with a pair of Kings