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  7-Jul-12, 07:27   #1
Ugh, seriously I must have pissed the poker gods off. 0 
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8, 8
Hero bets $0.06, 6 folds, SB calls $0.05, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.14) K, 8, 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.08, SB calls $0.08

Turn: ($0.30) 10 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.18, SB calls $0.18

River: ($0.66) 10 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.44, SB raises to $0.88, Hero raises to $1.84 (All-In), SB calls $0.78 (All-In)

Total pot: $3.98 | Rake: $0.14

Villain shows K10

All I can say is I think I played it perfectly. I had position, I think my bet sizes were fine, I just got runner runnered, which seems to be a fairly common occurrence for me lately.

Who can honestly say they'd EVER be folding that spot? Disagree

Edited by retribution (Saturday, July 07, 2012 @ 08:18 GMT)


     
  7-Jul-12, 07:33   #2
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sadamman 

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What did he have to runner runner you Confused I can't say i could fold this in a cash game because I don't play them. But in a tournament, UTG with 88 I wouldn't just fold it, I'd snap fold it, in tournaments UTG its really not worth the amount you're gunna lose playing it UTG.

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K 10?

     
  7-Jul-12, 08:02   #3
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shokaku 

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I would have bet more on the flop and turn. But that wouldn't change the hand that much. I guess opponent had KT and did a runner runner to you?

     
  7-Jul-12, 08:18   #4
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Posted by shokaku:
I would have bet more on the flop and turn. But that wouldn't change the hand that much. I guess opponent had KT and did a runner runner to you?


Yeah, don't know why it didn't post results. Villain showed K10

     
  7-Jul-12, 08:28   #5
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DaMessiah666 

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Posted by shokaku:
I would have bet more on the flop and turn. But that wouldn't change the hand that much. I guess opponent had KT and did a runner runner to you?

Agree. I would have bet more because you got the set and there was a flush draw ... Anyway, the villian had top pair good kicker, and the amount of money he was risking was really small ... so he could afford to call you and to wait for the river to see what happens with his hand. After all, he got lucky and beat you. Depending on the opponent ... difficult to make him fold in flop, more difficult in turn and impossible in river (of course!).

     
  7-Jul-12, 08:59   #6
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T3ddyKGB 

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All I can say is I think I played it perfectly. I had position, I think my bet sizes were fine, I just got runner runnered, which seems to be a fairly common occurrence for me lately.
Disagree [/QUOTE]

destiny, no matter how u play it, he hit and on low limit he wouldnt even fold if u go allin.

     
  7-Jul-12, 09:57   #7
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kinogomes 

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I dont blame you and i dont blame him either, its just a typical case of a guy thinking you where bluffing and called the highest boarded pair and got runner runner.
Pretty mucho something that we see millions of times on the tables.

     
  7-Jul-12, 11:56   #8
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BeMyATMplz 
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Guess I'll never understand threads like this..standard cooler...

     
  7-Jul-12, 13:00   #9
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doomdy 

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I can understand your frustration, but for me this hand isnt worth posting, its just 1 of so many beats it happens, its no problem for me.

Still unlucky though....

     
  8-Jul-12, 21:00   #10
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Macubaas 
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Overall you played the hand okay if you ask me, some people would have gone all in on turn but i'm not sure that it's always a profitable move..

Hands like this happend all the time so better luck next time!

     
  8-Jul-12, 21:09   #11
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damosk 
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Tough call maybe. If you had called higher on flop maybe he would have folded, but then your winning s would be reduced. By the turn maybe you should have been thinking something wasnt quite going your way and a larger bet may have heplped to help you decide, especially when he calls and then raises you on the river. But yep...a hard hand to drop by that stage.

     
  8-Jul-12, 21:24   #12
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takingdrugs 

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Who can honestly say they'd EVER be folding that spot?

stupid question no one would fold that
the question should be when he raised you river bet would you of gone all in?


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Posted by sadamman:
What did he have to runner runner you Confused I can't say i could fold this in a cash game because I don't play them. But in a tournament, UTG with 88 I wouldn't just fold it, I'd snap fold it, in tournaments UTG its really not worth the amount you're gunna lose playing it UTG.

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K 10?


id deffo play that in a tourney 3 bet pre flop utg, yeah deffo

Edited by takingdrugs (Sunday, July 08, 2012 @ 21:41 GMT)


     
  8-Jul-12, 22:09   #13
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sadamman 

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In a tournament 88 is deffo a limp hand and utg you can't limp really its just too dodgy IMO

     
  9-Jul-12, 09:02   #14
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TheMachineQC 

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That was cash game, so the 3x raise pre flop with 88 UTG is pretty standard. Flop bet is a bit small, he could be calling with pretty much any draw here. If you bet a lil bigger and he snap calls, it tells you he probably has the king. But the flop bet is pretty standard, can't say it's a mistake.

Turn card was probably the best card in the deck for you actually since he just made top 2 pair and he's never folding. Turn bet is a bit small too, but still its okay. Most people would've raised you on the turn and you would've been able to put your money in a very good spot. Vilain played it well there, he probably thought he was ahead and wanted to raise you on the river, so basicly he slow played it by smooth calling.

River is the unlucky part for you. The way he played it, it would be very hard to put him on K10, but it's definetly a possibility. There's no way you can dodge that bad beat especially in micro stakes since the 10 also completes a flush draw.

So you didn't do any mistake, you just got unlucky! It was a very polarized situation. Better luck next time!

     
  9-Jul-12, 10:34   #15
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Serpang 
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Posted by T3ddyKGB:

All I can say is I think I played it perfectly. I had position, I think my bet sizes were fine, I just got runner runnered, which seems to be a fairly common occurrence for me lately.
Disagree


destiny, no matter how u play it, he hit and on low limit he wouldnt even fold if u go allin. [/QUOTE]


Agree, that's happen to me many time. I am sure sometimes we can't analysis perfectly in micro.
Destiny is a fact !!!! we can't avoid it and try and try again, Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile .

I don't know high stake, I never play there ( I hope : not yet Tongue Tongue ). But I ever saw someone play similar with A7 at final table!!!! but he lost Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  9-Jul-12, 12:06   #16
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Fakiry 

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There was nothing wrong with the way you played, nor your oponent. You knew he could even have KK in the hand, it was possible. Even if that happened, i bet you would have played the same way, because you would never fold your 88, even more when you see the 2nd 10 at the river. You were putin him in what kind of hand, just for us to understand better? AK? You lost well, your oponent won well, nothing to say. If you had just checked in one of the moments, your opponent would have bet and you would go rifht after him, happening the same. It happens, the gods didn’t even watched this hand, i suppose.

     
  9-Jul-12, 18:29   #17
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Posted by Fakiry:
There was nothing wrong with the way you played, nor your oponent. You knew he could even have KK in the hand, it was possible. Even if that happened, i bet you would have played the same way, because you would never fold your 88, even more when you see the 2nd 10 at the river. You were putin him in what kind of hand, just for us to understand better? AK? You lost well, your oponent won well, nothing to say. If you had just checked in one of the moments, your opponent would have bet and you would go rifht after him, happening the same. It happens, the gods didn�t even watched this hand, i suppose.


I had him figured for something like AK, Kq/kX. No way I'm putting him on KK, given his line. No way he's cold calling OOP pre with KK, unless he's a drooling retard. And if he DID, no way he's just flatting my bet OTF. He's going to want to raise, to protect against a potential draw.

     
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