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  7-Oct-12, 07:32   #1
Hand analysis 0 
Joined: Sep '12
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Game #12183292142 starts.

#Game No : 12183292142
***** Hand History for Game 12183292142 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:73533315 Level:10 Blinds-Antes(800/1,600 -50) - Saturday, October 06, 22:34:01 EEST 2012
Table New Player $1,500 Freeroll (2774737) Table #58 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10/10
Seat 9: Andrius2888 ( 51,390 )
Seat 8: Buzzy44 ( 39,043 )
Seat 4: Kalaveros ( 39,564 )
Seat 10: PAY190 ( 41,370 )
Seat 2: Tatjana21 ( 2,715 )
Seat 1: evcsikee ( 31,091 )
Seat 5: sher7557 ( 35,868 )
Seat 3: soranh ( 15,362 )
Seat 6: scarpiniciule ( 21,473 )
Seat 7: tpllb ( 6,028 )
Trny:73533315 Level:10
Blinds-Antes(800/1,600 -50)
evcsikee posts ante [50]
Tatjana21 posts ante [50]
soranh posts ante [50]
Kalaveros posts ante [50]
sher7557 posts ante [50]
scarpiniciule posts ante [50]
tpllb posts ante [50]
Buzzy44 posts ante [50]
Andrius2888 posts ante [50]
PAY190 posts ante [50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to scarpiniciule [ Kd Qs ]
PAY190 folds
evcsikee folds
Tatjana21 folds
soranh folds
Kalaveros folds
sher7557 calls [1,600]
scarpiniciule calls [1,600]
tpllb is all-In [5,978]
Buzzy44 calls [5,178]
Andrius2888 calls [4,378]
sher7557 calls [4,378]
scarpiniciule calls [4,378]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 9c, Ks ]
Buzzy44 bets [6,400]
Andrius2888 calls [6,400]
sher7557 calls [6,400]
scarpiniciule is all-In [15,445]
Buzzy44 calls [9,045]
Andrius2888 folds
sher7557 calls [9,045]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
Buzzy44 checks
sher7557 checks
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
Buzzy44 bets [6,400]
sher7557 folds
Buzzy44 shows [ Kc, Qc ]a flush, King high.
scarpiniciule shows [ Kd, Qs ]a pair of Kings.
tpllb shows [ Ad, 7s ]high card Ace.
Buzzy44 wins 6,400 chips from the side pot 2 with a flush, King high.
Buzzy44 wins 52,735 chips from the side pot 1 with a flush, King high.
Buzzy44 wins 30,390 chips from the main pot with a flush, King high.
Player tpllb finished in 320 place and received $1.20 USD
Player scarpiniciule finished in 319 place and received $1.20 USD

Where i wrong ? when i call pre-flop or when i go all in ? Waiting for answers and advice on how to improve my game Worship Thank you Thumbs Up

  7-Oct-12, 08:04   #2

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I don't have too much of a problem with your limp, but it would be better to raise it in the first place. I think when you limp and there is so much action. With KQ off you'd don't really have very much choice but to fold. So in my opinion thats where you went wrong.

  7-Oct-12, 10:18   #3

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Location: Netherlands
Age: 46 (M)
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Little bit difficult to read your HH but your BB-2 maybe BB-3 something like that.
With that and 1 limper in front of you, i wudnt limp, i wud raise it or fold.
Imho a great spot to raise it up, after a raise preflop there is no way you can go out of this hand imo.
Thing is with that limp your kinda commited to that allin shorty, maybe if you raised, you came heads up which is allways better then a family pot.

But as played and allready invested so much into a big pot you cant really fold also knowing there are so much drawing hands problably.

  7-Oct-12, 10:52   #4
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Philippines
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 544
my idea since you limp in...I would push or fold when the action returns to me...But on this spot I will fold because KQ is not a good hand against many opponents...specially if its not suited.... you are almost always dominated in this spot...A raise pre-flop to isolate is also a good option here rather than limping...

  7-Oct-12, 13:16   #5
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Location: Sweden
Age: 25 (M)
Posts: 910
Posted by ayaraled:
my idea since you limp in...I would push or fold when the action returns to me...But on this spot I will fold because KQ is not a good hand against many opponents...specially if its not suited.... you are almost always dominated in this spot...A raise pre-flop to isolate is also a good option here rather than limping...

I agree with this guy ^

  7-Oct-12, 21:18   #6

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Canada
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 1490
For some reason I really love this hand, it's actually a really interesting spot given the action.

Given your stack size is only around 13BB, you really are in shove/fold mode, so limping is kind of bad. I think that was the big mistake you made, as once everyone else called the all-in, you're getting ridiculous implied odds to call. I think at that point, shoving would have MAYBE gotten rid of 1 or 2 of the limpers, but given they already have like 1/5 of their stacks in, you've got very little fold equity at this point. The way to look at it is, if they were willing to limp and then call that action, their range is already pretty strong so your shove is only going to get called by a range where at best you're a flip against, most likely you're dominated. Given that, shoving isn't going to get many hands to fold at that point. That said the pot is so massive it'll make up for the times you lose.

That said, I think a shove is still +ev, more-so than just limping since you're pretty much priced to call OTF anyways.

  7-Oct-12, 22:44   #7
Joined: Jun '10
Location: Belgium
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I have to agree, limping was a bad action here.

when you re shorttack just fold or raise at least 4 BB or all in.

with 5 people in the pot i would never go allin with highest pair....
flushdraw wa on the table after flop, also a str so many optons there

  7-Oct-12, 23:17   #8

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6440
I'm surprised ANYONE still limps as a short-stack these days, there is simply so much out there telling everyone NOT to do it.. It's almost the only thing in poker that seems to be universally agreed upon by people playing ALL style, simply because it really is the correct decision equity wise; you either SHOVE or FOLD (unless big blind in which case you can also CHECK).

  8-Oct-12, 10:25   #9

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 4764
You haven't done nothing wrong, but it was predictable that some like what just happened really end up happening. You were becoming short, taking in consideration the value of the blinds and the oponents at your table. You decided to risk in that hand (which wasn't that good) and flop started to help you. There was many players going for this hand, a typical freeroll action, and that was your problem. You weren't in position of scaring anyone because you were shorter than them. Watching two cards from the same colour at the flop and with so many players still to talk could have gave you the feeling that someone could be stronger than you. Another club came and a flush just got out above you. Don't feel bad, you opt to go on this with all of it, this will upgrade your skill, you will realize it in the future.

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