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  1-Mar-13, 20:53   #1
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
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As the title says, I am a winning MTT player, I used to do fairly well in SNG's back in the day but have never been able to win at cash.
I have bust both party and yacht very quickly and find it all very frustrating.

A little about my play, I am tight aggressive, I don't play many hands but when I do they are usually big ones, though I will try and limp with suited connectors and small pairs etc. I am happy to turtle to the money, but I will not hold back and often bust on the bubble taking scared chips. Deep stack games are easily my best as I don't play too many hands, especially early on.

I minimum cash a lot, and have had some big scores by going on a decent run, my best win coming 2nd in a $30k game for $4200. Don't bother SS'ing me, I won't tell my nick or the sites I use Tongue

Overall in about 12 years I am about $40k up at MTT's but dread to think how much I have lost in cash (stopped playing for a year or two due to family tradegy).

Trying to start from scratch, I have run 888 from $0 to $32, but thats all MTT wins and have lost $10 on top of that on cash, but its hard with MTT variance and such small bankrolls Tongue

I just feel like I have tried everything and nothing seems to work.

Any ideas, hints or tips? Going to stick to MTT's for a while and hope I can build a stack before variance slaps me in the face Tongue

     
  1-Mar-13, 22:03   #2
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rafiko1 

Joined: May '12
Location: Belgium
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 275
Hey Icequeen. Nice post about your gaming in general!

I'd tell you one thing - if you're good with MTT's and SNG's and you feel your better at them than cash games - then maybe tourneys are your thing.
Of course it's nice to be an all-round player.
But look, Phil Hellmuth made his living by tourneys only since he sucks at cash games, but he is one of the most succesfull tournament players (bracelets).
I personally think with tourneys you can win much more money, if you play them wisely. In one time, you can go from hero to zero - with only a small buy-in.

As for the cash games, everybody plays it differently. I like to see who I am facing on my table and change my game plan accordingly. But I usually like to play many hands on cash, and I min-raise a lot preflop, so that if I catch something good I can bet out, and I have a hand on disguise (like a str8 on flop)...

     
  2-Mar-13, 00:33   #3
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teddybears73 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 59 (M)
Posts: 3181
Posted by IceQueenAce:

Overall in about 12 years I am about $40k up at MTT's but dread to think how much I have lost in cash



so you have been playing 12 years and you are only 24 ?
you started early Smile
or is that a misprint, i think if i was you i'd stay away from cash games at the moment.

     
  2-Mar-13, 00:46   #4
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AlexSimion 
Joined: Mar '12
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I think she wants to be 24 Smile) , you know you should never ask a woman her real age.

     
  2-Mar-13, 00:52   #5
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teddybears73 
Joined: Nov '11
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Posted by AlexSimion:
I think she wants to be 24 Smile) , you know you should never ask a woman her real age.


aye, i think you are right there Alex, i mean i wouldn't want to upset her would i. Smile

     
  2-Mar-13, 06:25   #6
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
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Interesting thread and from beginning i will only tell you this: if you are that good on tournaments there is no reason to quit them and start playing cash!

Frankly i do not see a reason to switch to a game on which you are losing, especially if you do not have a solid roll for it yet.

     
  2-Mar-13, 10:03   #7
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
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LOL NEVER ask a lady her age Tongue

Yes I agree, staying away from cash is logical.

The problem is, I have never been able to quit anything till I am ahead Tongue

     
  2-Mar-13, 10:17   #8
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Zen1004 
Joined: Apr '12
Location: Korea, Republic of
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 244
If you want to improve your cash game, keep good records of your games and read some books or websites. After a couple of weeks review your games and try to spot any holes. Even better get some one you know that is a good cash player to watch you play and/or review your notes and have them critique your play. It may nor be comfortable hearing about your mistakes but without data or seeing how you play it's impossible to give any specifics on what to change.

     
  2-Mar-13, 12:00   #9
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8643
a hypothetical question: say you own 2 restaurants in 2 different neighborhoods, one of them is "North Korean Seafood" other one is "Hot Pizza & Boobs"
"Hot Pizza & Boobs" is raking in amazing profit & is hugely popular with the locals...so popular in fact, that it attracts people from the neighborhood where you have your seafood restaurant.
Now your "North Korean Seafood" restaurant is a real pain in the ass- you have 50 tables, but never more than 5 of them are occupied, you're losing cash big time & you even won a prize : "The Sh1ttiest Restaurant of the Year"...
now that hypothetical question i was talking about: you want to expand your business by opening a 3rd restaurant, what will you choose: a 2nd "Hot Pizza & Boobs" restaurant or a 2nd "North Korean Seafood" restaurant?

     
  2-Mar-13, 12:28   #10
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rafiko1 

Joined: May '12
Location: Belgium
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 275
Posted by pochui:
what will you choose: a 2nd "Hot Pizza & Boobs" restaurant or a 2nd "North Korean Seafood" restaurant?


Definitely Hot Pizza & Boobs. I just like the name and the concept. Who cares it's winning money?
But has to be better than Hooters, my friend.

     
  2-Mar-13, 16:59   #11
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
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very good point pochui, i guess i know what i need to do

     
  2-Mar-13, 17:07   #12
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RoninHarper 

Joined: Nov '12
Location: Canada
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 4440
G'day

Well my advice is very simple then, STOP playing on the cash tables.
I know that we all want to be able to rule the rounders tables but lets be honest.
We all have different style of game play and some people are great at tournament and bite it large on cash games.
I have a friend who makes great living playing nothing but tournaments but he will NOT play a cash game table at all. He keeps very accurate records and on 2010 he should me where he won 180K in tournaments and lost almost 75K on the cash tables. he told me it had always been that way for him so he has quite playing everything but tournaments.

good luck to you.

Ronin Cool

     
  2-Mar-13, 17:19   #13
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
cheers ronin, i will stick to tournies.

though its tempting to take pochui's advice and buy myself a restaurant ;p

     
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