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  28-Mar-13, 18:12   #1
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thefly131 
Joined: Jun '10
Location: Belgium
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I play speed poker at the moment and I have the following question

If there s an unopened pot and you re to act at the button --> should you always raise to try to steal the blinds.
How much should you raise ??

     
  28-Mar-13, 18:24   #2
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nipitiri3 
Joined: Nov '11
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heh ive noticed that noone wants to belive ya have good cards specially when ya are at button and often reraise u or simply call .. so i guess its more about who are players at SM and BB not about your cards


by the way what is speed poker its like those fast 6 max tbls at stars or maybe similar to zoom ... no idea

     
  28-Mar-13, 18:40   #3
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
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Optimal ranges for raising on the button in an unopened pot are completely dependant on the perceived calling ranges of the villain(s). The tighter the villains are, the wider the range is that you should raise... To be raising 100% of your range, the villain(s) would have to be calling only the top 2% or so of their hands.

If the villains on the other hand are very loose with their calls (loose-passive) then you should tighten your raising/shoving range to exploit their loose calls.

     
  28-Mar-13, 19:53   #4
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Macubaas 
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Except the position thing that has been already really good explained in the posts above there is one more thing you should take in consideration.

Here i'm talking about the history you have with the players you are at the table, even with crap cards you could make a raise if you know that the opponents based on history tend to fold Blink

     
  28-Mar-13, 21:27   #5
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thefly131 
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speed poker = rush = fats forward

so yuo face other players each time (depends how big the player pool is)

     
  29-Mar-13, 12:20   #6
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
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i play speed/rush/zoom poker rarely, but i had some success with doing min raises from the button in an unopened pot, i did it 100% of the time without even looking at my cards, if someone calls- see what flop brings, consider firing another min raise if villain checks. if you get reraised, just fold.

     
  29-Mar-13, 13:36   #7
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awood88 
Joined: Feb '08
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I haven't played speed or rush since it first appeared on full tilt so I can't really speak from experience but I imagine that raising anything from the button is a very common view. So common in fact that most big blinds will not give any player any credit, so this is a big problem.

As said above poker works on perceived calling ranges and history between players but since you don't have that in speed, you are constantly facing the average speed poker player who equally gives you the same credit. Unless you make notes on players.

So I would guess that you'd be better off only raising with strong hands and trapping the loose players. Then again if you are facing a raise from mp it might be an idea to re-raise any half decent hand, see the small blind will usually fold early if there's an early raise and the big blind will fold most, you're reraise looks strong to the mp raiser and baring in mind the speed of the game he may be tempted to quickly move on, but if he does call you can play position and with no reputation. As I say this is just a guess and I don't know how it works in practice.

     
  30-Mar-13, 17:15   #8
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Fakiry 

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You know most of times people only play good hands on this type of game, so either you raised in the begining and keep raising every time you can until your opponent realizes you have better hand than him or he will call you until the hnad. Unless... your raise is a bit higher than usual and you capt his attention and make him drop the hand.

     
  30-Mar-13, 19:48   #9
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veirge14 

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only with strong hands and suited connectors and very very strong as AA KK AKh

     
  30-Mar-13, 23:11   #10
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nipitiri3 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: Estonia
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if im at SM or BB i often find myself calling with crapp or semi decent hands ...... what i normally would auto fold at any other position (specially when raiser is at button)

     
  31-Mar-13, 16:26   #11
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Peter7878 

Joined: Dec '12
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Well, it is more important who are the players at your table. How they play. It depends on the situation. But you should definately read some pleasant info here:

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Edited by Administrator (Sunday, March 31, 2013 @ 16:33 GMT)


     
  31-Mar-13, 17:04   #12
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RoninHarper 

Joined: Nov '12
Location: Canada
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G'day mates

Well you must really be careful when playing on them speed table as you can lose everything you have very fast indeed. I wish you all the best mates.
Be cool and avoid the donks as much as you can.

Ronin Cool

     
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