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  25-Apr-13, 00:37   #1
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djpremier 
Joined: Dec '10
Location: Finland
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 419
Hi everyone !
Just wanted to share this funny hand with you ... Not very interesting but funny IMO .. I was just about to quit playing and I was in a bit of a hurry so I decided to try something different and see what happens : DD

iPoker - €0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players

UTG: 75 BB (VPIP: 24.32, PFR: 21.62, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 151)
CO: 167.25 BB (VPIP: 13.89, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 75)
BTN: 78.5 BB (VPIP: 19.59, PFR: 17.96, 3Bet Preflop: 17.07, Hands: 251)
Hero (SB): 250.75 BB
BB: 125 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has KdKh

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 250.75 BB and is all-in, BB calls 124 BB

Flop: (250 BB, 2 players) 2s 6h 3h

Turn: (250 BB, 2 players) 8c

River: (250 BB, 2 players) 6d

Hero shows KdKh (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes) (Pre 82%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
BB shows JhJd (Two Pair, Jacks and Sixes) (Pre 18%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 233.5 BB

Edited by djpremier (Thursday, April 25, 2013 @ 00:39 GMT)


     
  25-Apr-13, 06:29   #2
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8648
wow- not a lot of funny stuff here (reminds me of freerolls) but that was a sick call: 125 BB with jacks...dunno maybe he thought you pressed the wrong button, or just doing some nonsense. changing your gameplay does work sometimes Thumbs Up wouldn't be so funny if he had hit his trips though Tongue

     
  25-Apr-13, 06:46   #3
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1477
Posted by pochui:
wow- not a lot of funny stuff here (reminds me of freerolls) but that was a sick call: 125 BB with jacks...dunno maybe he thought you pressed the wrong button, or just doing some nonsense. changing your gameplay does work sometimes Thumbs Up wouldn't be so funny if he had hit his trips though Tongue



Sick call with JJ , Pochui ? really ? did you never seen a lot of player shove with AK/ AQ even AJ ?
sometimes with medium pair Smile low stack make a lot of player crazy I think. Even at $ 109 buy in MTT
sometime they did.

     
  25-Apr-13, 08:17   #4
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6441
Posted by Serpang:

Sick call with JJ , Pochui ? really ? did you never seen a lot of player shove with AK/ AQ even AJ ?
sometimes with medium pair Smile low stack make a lot of player crazy I think. Even at $ 109 buy in MTT
sometime they did.


Calling 125bb preflop in a $109 MTT with JJ is suicide, I assure you; no good MTT players would do this: It is easily proven to be -EV

Since the range you are up against is weighted heavily towards QQ+, AQs+, AK

There may be a few spazzes occasionally getting it in with worse than that for 125bb, but very rarely in a $100 MTT. If you put JJ against that range I gave into Poker Stove, you will see you're absolutely crushed.


But - in a 2c/4c cash game if somebody open-shoved 200+bb, I would probably call them with JJ, just because the range that people make a weird play with includes all sorts of worse pairs and shitty aces.

But if you were playing in a serious cash game, calling 125bb with JJ is stupid.

     
  11-May-13, 15:25   #5
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uno1Bomber 

Joined: May '13
Location: Russian Federation
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 541
That was not bad call. JJ vs KK the same as KK vs AA. If you have KK at preflop you'll never fold. Right? Blink

     
  11-May-13, 15:48   #6
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marqis 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 1631
Posted by uno1Bomber:
That was not bad call. JJ vs KK the same as KK vs AA. If you have KK at preflop you'll never fold. Right? Blink

By that logic, you could just call with 22 as well...

The point (that Jess already made) is, that facing such a large all in bet, you have to figure out what range he would do that with. The hand history does not show statistics for the Hero, so we don't have much information on that. But If you think he'll just shove pre flop like that with his very best hands (QQ+, AQs+), your JJ is crushed by that, whereas KK isn't.

That being said, at the micro stakes you see lot's of these all in moves with any pocket pair; maybe the villain has picked up on that pattern with the Hero?

     
  11-May-13, 16:08   #7
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Greenmohave 

Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 3361
As stated everything and anything at the low stakes so no surprise. Just can bite you as many times as it makes you look good.

If everyone played the way expected it wouldn't be poker.

     
  11-May-13, 16:15   #8
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alakazoo 
Joined: Apr '13
Location: Canada
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 333
I tought I would be laughing as hell in here but can't see the funny point of it Tongue Guess that it was a lot of fun for you! Great for you that some player still put so much faith on those Jack Big Smile

     
  12-May-13, 22:27   #9
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devagrant 

Joined: May '13
Location: Ireland
Age: 42 (M)
Posts: 54
''there are 3 ways to play JJ... and they are all wrong''

     
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