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  6-May-13, 09:41   #1
So Close, Yet So Far Away. Again! 0 
bullettooth1 

Joined: Mar '11
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I'm so sick of min cashing in tourneys on pokerstars. I would trade in all of them for just 1 win Aww crap! Angry
I've changed my game up a few times at the later stages, around the bubble and when in the money, but I just can't seem to get really deep. It's pissing me off now lol

You can post your suggestions on how to go deeper below Big Smile

Good luck on and off the felts all Thumbs Up

     
  6-May-13, 09:51   #2
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MIGO14 
Joined: Mar '11
Location: Germany
Age: 47 (M)
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Well, I totally know how you feel. I am in the exact same situation.
Doing not too bad, making some small cashes, but never going really deep in a tourney.
Guess I have to learn more about tourney play for sure.

     
  6-May-13, 12:34   #3
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RoninHarper 

Joined: Nov '12
Location: Canada
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You can post your suggestions on how to go deeper below Big Smile

Good luck on and off the felts all Thumbs Up [/QUOTE]

G'day Bullet

Well mate

If you arch your back when thrusting forward in a slight upward motion you might be able to go deeper.
You might also try using some leverage to brace you feet on, so as to support you lower legs, which could allow you to use more of your leg strength as well.
Perhaps however you should just change positions and lay on your back with your partner mounting you instead, then gravity can help her get the desired deep depth which you are having trouble with. Smile

Oh wait maybe you meant deep into tournament money.

umm never mind this message, i think I might have misunderstood the question Smile

For the record though, if you are willing to assume a little personal risk position 19 of the Karma Sutra is actually possible Smile

be cool mate & best of luck with the wife. Blink

Ronin Cool

Edited by RoninHarper (Monday, May 06, 2013 @ 12:38 GMT)


     
  6-May-13, 14:03   #4
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10011
I know the feeling. Some times it is meant to happen.
I mean watching all of your cards evevn the ones you fold not winning a sngle hand,
and the only way to get some more chips is by bluffing.
But this isnt the gamem you cant bluff you way till first place.
You need good cards also Smile

     
  6-May-13, 17:37   #5
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remco2504 
Joined: Dec '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 579
Posted by bullettooth1:
I'm so sick of min cashing in tourneys on pokerstars. I would trade in all of them for just 1 win Aww crap! Angry
I've changed my game up a few times at the later stages, around the bubble and when in the money, but I just can't seem to get really deep. It's pissing me off now lol

You can post your suggestions on how to go deeper below Big Smile

Good luck on and off the felts all Thumbs Up


I won some tourneys on PS and Party and got a final table many times in 200+ fields.
But i must say you have to have some luck winning tournaments...i have had luck in almost every win.I know people dont like to hear it because they think if they get better they win tourneys.
This isnt intirely true because if you never win the crucial races then you just wont win.
Even if you get your money in good almost the whole time people can still suck out.

Btw i think you have enough knowledge to figure out if your game needs improvement.
You just havent got lucky enough to win a tournament i think.

Its not ALL luck off course and good players always have a better chance but good players still need luck to win tournaments.

I wish you good luck and some deep runs Smile

Edited by remco2504 (Monday, May 06, 2013 @ 17:43 GMT)


     
  6-May-13, 18:03   #6
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teddybears73 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 59 (M)
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aye, i know what you are talking about there Bullet mate,i've been one hand away from really decent cash outs and it's so frustrating,you know if you win this hand and you are up to top 3 or even the FT with a good payout and what happens. Most times i've been in the lead and got beat,but it don't seem to matter as i just can't get by that final hurdle at the moment.
chin up mate i'm sure you will do it soon. Thumbs Up

gl at the tables.

     
  6-May-13, 18:07   #7
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alakazoo 
Joined: Apr '13
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Posts: 333
well, if your good enough to make it to the money, I'm pretty sure you'll be able to get to the final table soon or later... Maybe should'nt you change your game that much when your getting in the money. Depending on the kind of tourney your making, there might still be a long way to go to make it to 1st place . Patience and discipline might be the only thing I can tell you but I'm pretty sure you'll make it throught soon or later. Don't give up Blink

     
  6-May-13, 18:26   #8
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Doarulle 
Joined: Sep '12
Location: Romania
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 1052
That's pretty sick... wonder why pokerstars don't allow the players who play good to win what they deserv and let all the fish and noobs to win the MTT... and give a lot of bad beats to good players... never saw a PRO lose with quads on flop because the adversar make a royal/straight flush on the river or a higher quads...

     
  6-May-13, 19:49   #9
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bullettooth1 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: United Kingdom
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Thanks for all your great comments. I guess it is just a case of waiting my turn huh? Hope that happens sooner rather than later my bankroll needs a boost lol.

Ronin: what can I say? Lol. You definitely got the wrong end of the stick there bud Big Smile some great tips all the same tho Blink although I've never really struggled with getting knacker deep Big Smile Agree lol

     
  6-May-13, 20:59   #10
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AlexSimion 
Joined: Mar '12
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 640
Same story here Smile ...I have so many late finishes ... but with crappy payouts ...that it just makes me sick.....my most recent one was in the big 11 $ .... with a decent stack...losing with K K , against K A ... on a pokerstars magic river...the other guy hitting runner runner straight....with him calling ridicilous bets all the way....so don't really know what to tell you.. just that u need some crazy luck ... cause I've seen people .. playing for 5-6 hours...and shoving crap like 7 10 ... with good stacks...and later go on winning the damn thing.. Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  7-May-13, 00:47   #11
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RoninHarper 

Joined: Nov '12
Location: Canada
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Posted by bullettooth1:
Thanks for all your great comments. I guess it is just a case of waiting my turn huh? Hope that happens sooner rather than later my bankroll needs a boost lol.

Ronin: what can I say? Lol. You definitely got the wrong end of the stick there bud Big Smile some great tips all the same tho Blink although I've never really struggled with getting knacker deep Big Smile Agree lol


G'day mate

Was just trying to be both funny and helpful Smile
What can I say mate.
Sometimes I am just in the mood to be an A$$ Smile
You understand how it is right.
Be cool amigo and best of luck.

Ronin Cool

     
  7-May-13, 06:09   #12
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5680
Been there,...done that.... It's always nice to get deep into the cash,....but I'm happy with ANY amount I win! Better to win SOME,...than to play for 3 hours and lose your buy in...!

never made TOO many final tables before,...but THAT is always a nice feeling...! Smile

     
  7-May-13, 07:03   #13
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
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hey bullet big win is coming your way for sure, i can just smell it, no wait that's just my unwashed socks...back to the point: u know perfectly that deep runs don't come very often, so just shut up and go trough it like a real man though the war Big Smile
you're a good player- so you will reap the rewards one day or another, just hope when you run deep it will be a $1+ million GTD prize-pool and not brm freeroll

     
  7-May-13, 09:03   #14
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bullettooth1 

Joined: Mar '11
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Posted by pochui:
hey bullet big win is coming your way for sure, i can just smell it, no wait that's just my unwashed socks...back to the point: u know perfectly that deep runs don't come very often, so just shut up and go trough it like a real man though the war Big Smile
you're a good player- so you will reap the rewards one day or another, just hope when you run deep it will be a $1+ million GTD prize-pool and not brm freeroll

haha. thanks for that pochui, just the slap my b!tch ass, bubbling face needed Big Smile
yeah i hope my good run will come in a big tourney and not a freeroll lol.



LOL Ronin, i knew you were messin' i get in those moods all the time Big Smile Thumbs Up

     
  7-May-13, 18:05   #15
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
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Posted by bullettooth1:
Thanks for all your great comments. I guess it is just a case of waiting my turn huh? Hope that happens sooner rather than later my bankroll needs a boost lol.

Ronin: what can I say? Lol. You definitely got the wrong end of the stick there bud Big Smile some great tips all the same tho Blink although I've never really struggled with getting knacker deep Big Smile Agree lol


I think your problem is that you dont have the will or detrmination to go deeper than you do...... with perseverence, and the use of Ronin's advice, you can go even deeper than knacker deep! Its just a case of do you want to or believe that you can.

Its all about the preparation and not just waiting for the moment when you hit the money. You should be working on going deep right from the off and taking every opportunity to get in there at the right time and aiming on staying in there.

As they say, practice makes perfect and a little concentration on the right parts of the play makes for a better outcome.

Hope this is helpful.

     
  7-May-13, 18:48   #16
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bullettooth1 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: United Kingdom
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Is this advice for poker or intercourse? Could take it either way I guess lol.

Nah mate. As soon I register for a tourney I always look to see what the top prize pays not how many get paid Big Smile I'm always in it to win it, just doesn't happen that way Big Smile
Thanks for the advice bud. Appreciate it Thumbs Up

     
  7-May-13, 22:27   #17
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
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My sugestion won't please you because it goes against your intentions. I guess this things that are happening recently to your game are a consequence of you being playing a lot and dedicating a lot to the game, in a more specific and concentrated way. You like the Gold, you want to keep it, but you will have to learn to deal with the pressure of having downswings and keep at the tables. I don't know how you can do that, but that must be what pros do, after all we ear about so big sums of money and they keep there day after day. GL mate!

     
  8-May-13, 00:39   #18
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RoninHarper 

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Posted by bullettooth1:
Is this advice for poker or intercourse? Could take it either way I guess lol.

Nah mate. As soon I register for a tourney I always look to see what the top prize pays not how many get paid Big Smile I'm always in it to win it, just doesn't happen that way Big Smile
Thanks for the advice bud. Appreciate it Thumbs Up


G'day mate

Well you might just need to keep fighting the good fight and just hope to avoid the dreaded downswing blues mate.
We have faith in you to go all the way.
Just keep playing good poker and eventually you will go far.
be cool and best of luck.

Ronin Cool

     
  8-May-13, 09:18   #19
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remco2504 
Joined: Dec '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 35 (M)
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Posted by Fakiry:
My sugestion won't please you because it goes against your intentions. I guess this things that are happening recently to your game are a consequence of you being playing a lot and dedicating a lot to the game, in a more specific and concentrated way. You like the Gold, you want to keep it, but you will have to learn to deal with the pressure of having downswings and keep at the tables. I don't know how you can do that, but that must be what pros do, after all we ear about so big sums of money and they keep there day after day. GL mate!


What a load off .... Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
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