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  8-May-13, 22:19   #1
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Peter7878 

Joined: Dec '12
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 1022
Hi Mobsters,

Last 5 days I played on the ring tables at Full Tilt Poker. I started to play with $0.83 which I won at the SNG and played 3 days only micro limits (N - New Members) $0.01/$0.02. So, playing almost 10 hours I made $10.

I started to win a lot at these tables, so at the third day I was not allowed to play at the tables marked with N. Appeared the following message: "You already don't have the right to play at the ring tables marked with N for new players. You may play our standard ring tables. So, now I continue to play at the standard ring tables.

But what I noticed! I checked my hand history for the past 5 days hand by hand, I played 2000 hands or more every day at the ring tables, so total 10 000 hands for 5 days. I checked all hands which is shown the river.

My conclusion is: Every 30 hand I get the possibility to win. I mean if you reach all the hands untill the river you will win 1 hand per 30 hands. So every 100 hands played I get the possibility to win 3, or maximum 4 times. Mostly AK, AA or high pairs lose like 40%. But if I risk with 5,3 which I did, finally I got four of a kind 5. QK 90% is a losing hand. 55 or 33 - 80% losing hands, A2, A3, A4, A5, A6, A7, A8, A9 - 85% losing hands. The most winning hand is KK.

I also noticed that if I play aggressive with more ALL IN or raise, I get the possibility for more winning hands which the software gives me, but if I play Fold 80% of the hands and finally when I get the monster hand AA for examle I will lose the hand for sure. I also noticed that players who have more money at the tables, they win more, but players with less money, they lose more. I think the software system is created that way when you have $0.50 for example you will be given monster hands you will go ALL IN and you will lose. That is the way to deposit once more. But players who have $10 at the tables, they have more possibilities to win, given them by the software.

Because when I played the ring tables, I always check the hand replayer for every hand and I calculated that one hand per thirty is a winning hand. The other chance to win a lot of the micro limits tables is to bluff a lot, because everyone will fold. That is why I suppose that may be there is some program at the Full Tilt Poker software which calculate all your winnings. When I started with $0.83 and finished with $10, The third day finished with $17, so then appeared the message that I am not allowed to play at the New tables.

Well, these are my impressions and thoughts about the ring tables at Full Tilt Poker. I will be glad to read what do you think about that? Tomorrow I will continue to play again, but I have noticed that when I play at $0.02/$0.05 I am not confident and I lose too fast, but when I play $0.01/$0.02 I win more. My purpose is to reach $100 from the ring tables. Smile

Good luck at the tables!

Best regards,
Peter7878

Edited by Peter7878 (Wednesday, May 08, 2013 @ 22:27 GMT)


     
  9-May-13, 05:38   #2
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
My advice right now for you is to continue playing at 1/2 cents until you build up a solid roll that will allow you to move up Blink

As for the N table those are considered newbie tables so they say that a newbie cannot play that many tables at once, thats why you aren't allowed to multi-table as on regular tables.

     
  9-May-13, 10:12   #3
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djpremier 
Joined: Dec '10
Location: Finland
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 419
Well if this is true then all you have to do is buy-in with the maximum and play super LAG and the software will work for you and you will be rich Smile

     
  9-May-13, 10:59   #4
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remco2504 
Joined: Dec '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 579
Well Peter you just made a huge post claiming Full Tilt is rigged.
I personaly believe what you are saying and if you are 100% sure about it why still play ??
The software can take your money at any point and give it to those big stacks that steal all the cash..


     
  9-May-13, 14:56   #5
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Doarulle 
Joined: Sep '12
Location: Romania
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 1052
Continue play at NL 2 and after you'll beat this micro-stakes you can go and play with durrrr and the company Big Smile i can see now the FTP try all method to get back the players and the money they lose on Black Friday, btw wonder how many players keep playing after they get back their money and when will be another BLACK FRIDAY Big Smile

     
  9-May-13, 15:00   #6
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SuperNoob 

Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 4873
your pseudo-analysis is full of sampling errors

     
  9-May-13, 16:04   #7
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Peter7878 

Joined: Dec '12
Location: Bulgaria
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 1022
Radha Soami SuperNoob Smile

     
  9-May-13, 16:53   #8
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karmie 
Joined: Dec '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 8
Posted by Peter7878:
My conclusion is: Every 30 hand I get the possibility to win. I mean if you reach all the hands untill the river you will win 1 hand per 30 hands. So every 100 hands played I get the possibility to win 3, or maximum 4 times. Mostly AK, AA or high pairs lose like 40%. But if I risk with 5,3 which I did, finally I got four of a kind 5. QK 90% is a losing hand. 55 or 33 - 80% losing hands, A2, A3, A4, A5, A6, A7, A8, A9 - 85% losing hands. The most winning hand is KK.

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I don't even know where to begin dude you literally have no hope at achieving anything in Poker until you accept how bad you actually are and work to improve instead of trying to state the game is rigged. Playing 5/5/2 and jamming AA,KK,AKs+ pre does not make you a good player or long term winner. It sounds to me like you are one of those guys with a ridiculously tight preflop range who doesn't know how to fold postflop and gives his opponents ridiculous implied odds to stack you.

You seem like a nice guy but just be honest with yourself - the site is not rigged you just aren't making optimal decisions and you are most probably a fish. Nobody is as good as they think they are (myself included) but the Poker world is not short of deluded micro grinders who think they could crush MSNL/HSNL with a roll and don't understand how exploitable they and their opponents are.

'How can I BLUFF if opponent never fold! He call with Jack 5 and hit 2 pair! When I have Aces they all fold! All donkey is lucky! I wish I could play high stakes nobody play bad card!'

Sound familiar? Blink

     
  11-May-13, 10:04   #9
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uno1Bomber 

Joined: May '13
Location: Russian Federation
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 541
'How can I BLUFF if opponent never fold! He call with Jack 5 and hit 2 pair! When I have Aces they all fold! All donkey is lucky! I wish I could play high stakes nobody play bad card!'



You absolutely right. That's why I afraid bluffing to fishes. When I play with them, I never bluffin.

     
  11-May-13, 16:07   #10
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10034
Like Macunaas said dont start playing at higher limits yet.
You will need to build that bankroll a liitle bit longer before you start advancing levels.
That will help you if you have a downswing.
If you play in higher levels and you hit one you may end up with no bankroll at no time
with the money you have right now.

     
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