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  23-Jun-13, 07:52   #1
Bad fold ( 0 
uno1Bomber 

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MP1: t1430 M = 9.23
Hero (MP2): t1455 M = 9.39
CO: t1440 M = 9.29
BTN: t1455 M = 9.39
SB: t1430 M = 9.23
BB: t1480 M = 9.55
UTG: t3115 M = 20.10
UTG+1: t3135 M = 20.23

Pre Flop: (t155) Hero is MP2 with J Q
3 folds, Hero raises to t150, CO raises to t300, BTN raises to t1445 all in, 3 folds, CO calls t1130 all in

Flop: (t3165) J Q J (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t3165) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t3165) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

     
  23-Jun-13, 09:14   #2
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shokaku 

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Correct fold. Just a uber lucky flop for your hand. But i wouldn't get involved with that hand in that position anyway. Its just asking for trouble.

     
  23-Jun-13, 10:44   #3
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Serpang 
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Posted by shokaku:
Correct fold. Just a uber lucky flop for your hand. But i wouldn't get involved with that hand in that position anyway. Its just asking for trouble.



But sometime we need feeling or instinct to win in poker. Don't you ever do it ? what's answer when someone go or call all in and won ? why they do that ? cos they don't have brain ? or in give up
situation ? that's make frustrating or more interesting ? why we still play ? Sad

     
  23-Jun-13, 10:52   #4
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uno1Bomber 

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Posted by Serpang:
Posted by shokaku:
Correct fold. Just a uber lucky flop for your hand. But i wouldn't get involved with that hand in that position anyway. Its just asking for trouble.



But sometime we need feeling or instinct to win in poker. Don't you ever do it ? what's answer when someone go or call all in and won ? why they do that ? cos they don't have brain ? or in give up
situation ? that's make frustrating or more interesting ? why we still play ? Sad


It's MTT and All in was very risky for me, that's why I fold it.

(I finished 5th)

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You are using more intuition or logic?

Edited by uno1Bomber (Sunday, June 23, 2013 @ 10:56 GMT)


     
  23-Jun-13, 10:56   #5
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Doarulle 
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You shouldnt raise from that position only if you feel you could shove with jack queen offsuited but was a right fold and you should keep playing like that and fold some times with AK Club without position. Never fold AA just if you are short stack in bubble

     
  23-Jun-13, 11:05   #6
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uno1Bomber 

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Posted by Doarulle:
You shouldnt raise from that position only if you feel you could shove with jack queen offsuited but was a right fold and you should keep playing like that and fold some times with AK Club without position. Never fold AA just if you are short stack in bubble


Sometime I fold good hand, because my opponents push all with nothing.
It's so sick when you see your folded nuts on board and your opponent win with pair of 7 Aww crap!
I need some selfcontrol metod (drugs) Big Smile

     
  23-Jun-13, 11:30   #7
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mies730 

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Posted by uno1Bomber:
need some selfcontrol metod (drugs) Big Smile


Hahahaha

just be carefull with what drugs U use for this......... Dont think ur poker game will improve by taking LSD or E tablets....Tho I do think that that would be really funny to watch
Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

Any way U did well as U came on 5th place ....was that itm....and if so what U won ??

best of luck

     
  23-Jun-13, 11:34   #8
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uno1Bomber 

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Posted by mies730:
...
Any way U did well as U came on 5th place ....was that itm....and if so what U won ??

best of luck


5th is a bubble place, just few $

     
  23-Jun-13, 20:30   #9
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Macubaas 
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The fold was good in my opinion, i mean in that spot i thought that one of those players definately had a pair like TT or even lower but a pair.

I think we all came across this type of situations over time, you don't need to worry about it at all.

     
  24-Jun-13, 17:56   #10
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demodawggy 

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Hey,...just a few dollars is better than NO dollars....

It would have been nice if things went your way and you went deep,...but hey,... I think I would have folded there.....Plenty more chances for the BIG hand to come along.... Thumbs Up

     
  24-Jun-13, 18:08   #11
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yout85 
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The thing you have to remember is as every card is in itself random, any decision you make differently, or amount of time you take to make a decision, the flop will be other random cards than what happened.... if that makes any sense at all. I know what I'm trying to say, but can't expalin it better.

Basically - in live poker, you could consider you made a "wrong" fold... but not a "bad" one. The outcome doesn't change whether you made the right move or not... But in online poker, if you had called - the flop could've been AAA.... it COULD still have been JQJ, but the fold was still correct.

If someone says to you - I have a coin. I'll flip it, if it comes up heads I give you £11,000.... If it's tails, you give me £10,000... The RIGHT thing to do is take the bet. Regardless of the outcome - you made the right choice. This example is also a good bankroll management tip... If you had to turn down this opportunity, because you can't afford to lose - you shouldn't be playing. So if you play a tourney you can't afford to lose, you'll fold some spots where you should call and your results will suffer.

...Hope that all makes sense.

     
  24-Jun-13, 20:58   #12
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uno1Bomber 

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Posted by yout85:
The thing you have to remember is as every card is in itself random, any decision you make differently, or amount of time you take to make a decision, the flop will be other random cards than what happened.... if that makes any sense at all. I know what I'm trying to say, but can't expalin it better.

Basically - in live poker, you could consider you made a "wrong" fold... but not a "bad" one. The outcome doesn't change whether you made the right move or not... But in online poker, if you had called - the flop could've been AAA.... it COULD still have been JQJ, but the fold was still correct.

If someone says to you - I have a coin. I'll flip it, if it comes up heads I give you �11,000.... If it's tails, you give me �10,000... The RIGHT thing to do is take the bet. Regardless of the outcome - you made the right choice. This example is also a good bankroll management tip... If you had to turn down this opportunity, because you can't afford to lose - you shouldn't be playing. So if you play a tourney you can't afford to lose, you'll fold some spots where you should call and your results will suffer.

...Hope that all makes sense.


I understood everything you said. It really helped me to understand my thoughts.
I realized that it is better not to think about the board after the fold.
It only leads to anger.
Tnx man
Thumbs Up

     
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