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  28-Jun-13, 20:00   #1
2-7 SD 0 
Doarulle 
Joined: Sep '12
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Hey mobsters, just arrived home from a friend and i saw him play 2-7 SD and after he explain me the rules i think i can win at this game because is opponet of 5 cards draw. And all the time when i played 5draw i miss the flush or straight on 95% cases.
So i want some advices, some strategy and some answers because i think i like this kind of game.
Can you call ALL-IN before draw with 8 high? or call after draw with 9high less than 5BB ?
THANK YOU FOR ALL ANSWERS IN ADVANCE because this comunity is awesome. Worship Worship

     
  29-Jun-13, 00:59   #2
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Greenmohave 

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I've never played it, but have watched it be played. I'm just not willing to jump in and give it a shot. If you do feel confident that's a big step towards winning any of the games. At least I fell that way. Good Luck and post your results or write about your experience. It may motivate me to give it a try.

     
  29-Jun-13, 03:27   #3
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yout85 
Joined: May '12
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Hi Doarulle... I started playing 2-7 SD shortly after becoming hooked on 2-7 TD... If you're familiar with Triple Draw, it's a great start - but if you're not, you can still pick it up pretty quickly.

It all depends what sort of game you're playing, heads up or cash (there are only a few MTTs that run, but you can use the same sort of tactics for them as you would on a cash table).

I'll assume the advice you are looking for is on cash tables, with 7 people at a table....


Predraw

Any pat hand (hand that's already made, so you choose not to draw any cards) should be raised predraw. I count a hand 10 high as raisable.. but if you get reraised, you'll likely need an 8 high or better to hang around. I am always willing to get my money in with an 8 high - but do expect to lose from time to time.

You want to be raising any 4 card hand, 9 high or better - as if you hit, a 9 high will win most pots. If you get reraised - only 4 cards to an 8 high is worth sticking around with...

NEVER call out of the blinds and draw more than one card - it will certainly lose you money in the long run.

Postdraw:

If you end up with a 7 high - you can be almost certain it's good... you will very occasionally lose with a 76542 for example - but you should always look to get all your money in with that, as it id very rare anyone will have better. Again - an 8 high is going to be the best hand 95% of the time - but I advise you should only call a raise instead of reraising unless you hold the 7 high. 9 and 10 high hands are the average hand that will take down an unraised hand, so in position, it's worth betting against someone who's checked.

Jack high:

It's a very important point to know, that against 1 opponent, a jack high (eg 2379J) is favourite over ANY player discarding one card (eg 2347K). So, for example if you are in the BB holding 2379J, action is folded round to the SB who raises - you should call with this hand. If they then draw one card -you should stand pat -- if they stand pat, then you should discard your jack and hope to hit a 9 high.

Position is KEY - even more so than hold'em... and it's also vitally important you pay attention to how people are playing...

If you have any more questions, just let me know, and I'll try to answer best I can. Good luck if you decide to give it a go mate Smile

     
  29-Jun-13, 08:56   #4
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Doarulle 
Joined: Sep '12
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Posts: 1052
Posted by yout85:
Hi Doarulle... I started playing 2-7 SD shortly after becoming hooked on 2-7 TD... If you're familiar with Triple Draw, it's a great start - but if you're not, you can still pick it up pretty quickly.

It all depends what sort of game you're playing, heads up or cash (there are only a few MTTs that run, but you can use the same sort of tactics for them as you would on a cash table).

I'll assume the advice you are looking for is on cash tables, with 7 people at a table....


Predraw

Any pat hand (hand that's already made, so you choose not to draw any cards) should be raised predraw. I count a hand 10 high as raisable.. but if you get reraised, you'll likely need an 8 high or better to hang around. I am always willing to get my money in with an 8 high - but do expect to lose from time to time.

You want to be raising any 4 card hand, 9 high or better - as if you hit, a 9 high will win most pots. If you get reraised - only 4 cards to an 8 high is worth sticking around with...

NEVER call out of the blinds and draw more than one card - it will certainly lose you money in the long run.

Postdraw:

If you end up with a 7 high - you can be almost certain it's good... you will very occasionally lose with a 76542 for example - but you should always look to get all your money in with that, as it id very rare anyone will have better. Again - an 8 high is going to be the best hand 95% of the time - but I advise you should only call a raise instead of reraising unless you hold the 7 high. 9 and 10 high hands are the average hand that will take down an unraised hand, so in position, it's worth betting against someone who's checked.

Jack high:

It's a very important point to know, that against 1 opponent, a jack high (eg 2379J) is favourite over ANY player discarding one card (eg 2347K). So, for example if you are in the BB holding 2379J, action is folded round to the SB who raises - you should call with this hand. If they then draw one card -you should stand pat -- if they stand pat, then you should discard your jack and hope to hit a 9 high.

Position is KEY - even more so than hold'em... and it's also vitally important you pay attention to how people are playing...

If you have any more questions, just let me know, and I'll try to answer best I can. Good luck if you decide to give it a go mate Smile

Thank you for answer mate.
I think i understand this game and i like it.
so is good to go all-in postdraw with 8 high or no ? Big Smile
Call with 9high maximum 5BB when all your opponents draw 2 or more is good too ?
Obviously i think 76542 is winning 99.01% of case and i never hesitate to call all-in.

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Posted by Greenmohave:
I've never played it, but have watched it be played. I'm just not willing to jump in and give it a shot. If you do feel confident that's a big step towards winning any of the games. At least I fell that way. Good Luck and post your results or write about your experience. It may motivate me to give it a try.

Yes sir i will post my result if i will start to play this kind of game. Worship

     
  29-Jun-13, 09:39   #5
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
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i think in 2-7SD a lot depends on your opponents- this is a game of lots of aggression & u can get away with bluffing very often. now with 8 high i would call all-in most of the time, pretty decent hand, call 5BB's with 9 high? tough one- this is one of those situations where u should listen to your instincts, and evaluate your opponents overall play.

     
  29-Jun-13, 19:45   #6
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Doarulle 
Joined: Sep '12
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Posted by pochui:
i think in 2-7SD a lot depends on your opponents- this is a game of lots of aggression & u can get away with bluffing very often. now with 8 high i would call all-in most of the time, pretty decent hand, call 5BB's with 9 high? tough one- this is one of those situations where u should listen to your instincts, and evaluate your opponents overall play.

Thank you for reply Pochui, you're right 100% when you say you should listen your instincts. I remind i fold over than 10 times with AA on bubble and 90% cases it was a perfect fold.
Another question: can you go all in with A Spade A Club on a flop A Heart 5 Heart 9 Heart or
8 Spade 8 Club on a flop 8 Diamond 7 Spade 6 Club ?

     
  29-Jun-13, 22:45   #7
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teddybears73 
Joined: Nov '11
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i prefer to play 2-7 td myself as i think single draw is harder because if you are not aggressive enough then you will get pushed of pots more easily if you have a marginal hand. imo

     
  30-Jun-13, 03:19   #8
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alakazoo 
Joined: Apr '13
Location: Canada
Age: 29 (M)
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can't give you any smart advice about how to play this game but if there's one advice I can give youu is... don't play this game!! hahahaha

no seriously wish you good luck with your learning of this game and your further game of 2-7 but I don't think your gonna become a king of this game for the only reason that on hold'em you always miss your straight and flush Blink

     
  30-Jun-13, 07:02   #9
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
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Posted by Doarulle:
Another question: can you go all in with A Spade A Club on a flop A Heart 5 Heart 9 Heart or
8 Spade 8 Club on a flop 8 Diamond 7 Spade 6 Club ?

100% sure. u're afraid of made str8s or flushes, which is so so rare on the flop (don't know exact percentages), now the more realistic situation here is villain chasing str8s/flushes, which gives him 1/3 or 1/4 odds to make it happen...so in the long run u put all of your chips on the table in this situation u will walk away the winner, sure u might lose lots of hands, but overall i would put my chips in 100% of the times (well maybe with the exception of bubble, if i'm sitting with a very safe stack)

     
  30-Jun-13, 09:14   #10
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Doarulle 
Joined: Sep '12
Location: Romania
Age: 26 (M)
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Posted by pochui:
Posted by Doarulle:
Another question: can you go all in with A Spade A Club on a flop A Heart 5 Heart 9 Heart or
8 Spade 8 Club on a flop 8 Diamond 7 Spade 6 Club ?

100% sure. u're afraid of made str8s or flushes, which is so so rare on the flop (don't know exact percentages), now the more realistic situation here is villain chasing str8s/flushes, which gives him 1/3 or 1/4 odds to make it happen...so in the long run u put all of your chips on the table in this situation u will walk away the winner, sure u might lose lots of hands, but overall i would put my chips in 100% of the times (well maybe with the exception of bubble, if i'm sitting with a very safe stack)

That's right, bubble always i prefer to don't play a hand like AA KK KJs+ because i can lose few blinds and if i push with AA or KK i have some chances to lose, all the time when there's only 10 players left before itm i prefer to sit out or ask for time.

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Posted by alakazoo:
can't give you any smart advice about how to play this game but if there's one advice I can give youu is... don't play this game!! hahahaha

no seriously wish you good luck with your learning of this game and your further game of 2-7 but I don't think your gonna become a king of this game for the only reason that on hold'em you always miss your straight and flush Blink

Hehe thanks for reply mate Worship obviously you can not play a game of backwards another
When you have Spade Spade Spade Spade you wish another Spade not Heart or Diamond or Club

Edited by Doarulle (Sunday, June 30, 2013 @ 09:20 GMT)


     
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