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  8-Jul-14, 07:03   #1
a couple of questions about this hand 0 
greatgame3 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Venezuela, Bolivarian Republic of
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Hi, how you can win this?, But please if anyone knows why the call with that hand?

http://www.boomplayer.com/es/poker-hands/Boom/9776559_5...

thanks for letting me be part of this community and please excuse my English and my writing errors

Greetings greatgamne

     
  8-Jul-14, 08:29   #2
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 6235
Not much you can do here. If a player can't let go his 53s after an all-in preflop, and gets lucky, it's just a beat. Problem is your stack size. You have only a little over 5 BB. So you better have been active long before this hand.

     
  8-Jul-14, 08:32   #3
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BeMyATMplz 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Germany
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 1854
One word - Freeroll.

As played by him 53s is actually really a call after your shove and the folds of the blinds, he's getting 2/1 odds so needs ~33% equity and can expect to have, vs. a normal range, slightly more than than that.

If you do of course shove very tight here, 53s is an easy fold, but you should shove about 40% of hands in this spot and vs. that range 53s has about 35% equity.

     
  8-Jul-14, 09:17   #4
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doubletop777 
Joined: Mar '11
Location: United Kingdom
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I dont think you could have done anything differently with this hand. You were holding a pretty good hand with only five big blinds so you had no choice but to shove, you just got very unlucky when he hit his two pair

     
  8-Jul-14, 13:57   #5
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
There is nothing you did wrong in this hand, this i can guarantee you...

You simply got bad luck, this type of hands happen all the times, especially on freerolls. I guess better luck next time Blink

     
  11-Jul-14, 10:03   #6
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greatgame3 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Venezuela, Bolivarian Republic of
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Hi first thank you all for taking the time to give their responses on this subject, I think it's always important to see what other people think because it is the fastest way to learn.

thanks for letting me be part of this community and please excuse my English and my writing errors

Greetings greatgamne

     
  11-Jul-14, 10:34   #7
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Samarietis 
Joined: Feb '12
Location: Latvia
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 162
Big stack bully + it's a freeroll , as well most of the people don't play there for there best ... If we are talking about freerolls , then you have to be ready that there will be many of these kind of calls ...

     
  12-Jul-14, 07:16   #8
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damosk 
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Location: United Kingdom
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Pretty usual fayre here. Your short stacked before the blinds and have shoved. Best chances are he thinks you have an ace, so his 53s while not giving him roughly 60/40 against therefore his calling your in is an expected move. The one thing that upsets his call is that you have a relatively good pair, which undermines his estimation that you have an ace and puts his odds now down to roughly 80/20 against, which is clearly far worse for him than his anticipated 60/40. So, had he given any thought to you having a good pair, he probably wouldn't have called you! He just got lucky after a bad assessment of your hand.

     
  12-Jul-14, 07:48   #9
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
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I disagree, I think he made a good call.

He had to go with the range you were shoving on, with only 5BB's your range was way larger than normal and he had the equity to call.

It was a good call by him, the fact you had a pair instead of K6o for instance is just variance that will even itself out for him over the long term.

It certainly wasn't a bad beat. Your shove was fine, his call was good.

I would be more interested in finding out why you were down to only 5BB's, if you don't have a good reason then its a big leak in your game.

     
  12-Jul-14, 10:56   #10
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magatt966 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
Age: 46 (M)
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Posted by IceQueenAce:
I disagree, I think he made a good call.



You missed to mention he made an horrible limp in form CutOff. That was the worst thing he did.

The call togreatgame3 shove is overshadowed by that donkish move.

But hey....it's a freeroll

     
  12-Jul-14, 11:08   #11
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
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its not the best play admittedly, but i have seen worse.

I would much prefer to see a raise here rather than limp fold. Maybe he wanted to but was scared of the other big stacks. As soon as the big stack folds, he has a simple call to make.

     
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