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  19-Sep-14, 14:50   #1
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Cruimh 
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Any mathematicians Around? I just got dealt the same hole cards in tournaments on FTPoker and PStars. Jack Spades and 8 hearts. What are the odds of getting identical cards dealt at the same time in two tournaments?

     
  19-Sep-14, 15:15   #2
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Mipetin 

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What are the odds for getting dealt AK 3 times in a row in the same tournament?

     
  19-Sep-14, 15:26   #3
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BeMyATMplz 
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Posted by Cruimh:
What are the odds of getting identical cards dealt at the same time in two tournaments?


54*53 are the odds to get any combination twice in a row.
So every 2862nd hand this happens.

     
  19-Sep-14, 15:27   #4
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Cruimh 
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Posted by Mipetin:
What are the odds for getting dealt AK 3 times in a row in the same tournament?


Same suits? Blink

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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Posted by Cruimh:
What are the odds of getting identical cards dealt at the same time in two tournaments?


54*53 are the odds to get any combination twice in a row.
So every 2862nd hand this happens.


But this wasn't twice in a row, it was simultaneously on two different sites, Pokerstars and Full Tilt Poker.

     
  19-Sep-14, 15:34   #5
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BeMyATMplz 
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Posted by Mipetin:
What are the odds for getting dealt AK 3 times in a row in the same tournament?


The likelyhood of receiving AK is 1.21% (if we make no difference between suited and offsuit).
It depends if you wanna start counting from the first time you received or from the 2nd time, but generally if we count from the first time receiving (while I'd find from 2nd time more reasonable) you have to go 100/1.21 = 82.65 (hands you need to get dealt AK on average)
Then 82.65*82.65*82.65 = 564584 (total hands you will need to play on average to receive AK 3 times in a row)

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Posted by Cruimh:



But this wasn't twice in a row, it was simultaneously on two different sites, Pokerstars and Full Tilt Poker.


This doesn't change the odds because they are 2 seperately played hands.
In this specific case of playing 2 sites there would also have to be timely calculations made (e.g. pokerstars usually runs a bit faster than FTP, thus increasing the chances a bit).

However, this is really not something worth bothering about, there's much more important stuff about poker to be looked at.

     
  19-Sep-14, 15:37   #6
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uno1Bomber 

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It happens to me quite often. Once I was dealt KK in two tournaments and lose both of them

     
  20-Sep-14, 00:08   #7
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Mipetin 

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Posted by Cruimh:
[QUOTE]Posted by Mipetin:
What are the odds for getting dealt AK 3 times in a row in the same tournament?


Same suits? Blink

Haha no. It was on a satellite and i opened 2x and got folds everytime. Atleast i won some blinds..

     
  20-Sep-14, 23:06   #8
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awood88 
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Posted by Cruimh:
Any mathematicians Around? I just got dealt the same hole cards in tournaments on FTPoker and PStars. Jack Spades and 8 hearts. What are the odds of getting identical cards dealt at the same time in two tournaments?


It's actually very common. Whether it was one site or two is neither here nor there. You have two different tournaments and the same hand in both at the same time. If you regularly play two or more tournaments at the same time, this will happen at least once a week.

The odds of getting exactly Js 8h at the same time in two hands is quite unlikely but if you widen that to any hand then... the chance of the first PS hand matching the first FT hand is 1 in (52x51) or 1 in 2652. But one of the hands will usually finish first so you get a second chance at matching the hand. Every new deal in either tournament is another 1 in 2652 chance even if the cross over only lasts a few seconds. So it now depends on the length of the tournaments, the speed and how long you last but typically you could have 150 hands in a single hour of playing two tournaments so conservatively there's a 1 in 20 chance per an hour of playing two tournaments together.

     
  22-Sep-14, 16:15   #9
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watoba 
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I have 2 times Aces both same colour in a row in a live cash game in a casino
casino,that gives me big money Big Smile ,first times the aces a good player from the table raise this was the first time he raise on 20 blinds was 2/4€ i reraise the pot 50€ he fold.
The next hand again the same aces versus a player he play every hand and never win i raise on 16€ the called flop was 6 8 T and i thing f**k again this player a very dangerous flop.I check he bet,i call turn Ace he bet i call river 8 Full House yeah Big Smile he goes all in
and i have 350€
I was go in the casino and want play after my work for an hour and buy in for the minimun with 100€, my plan was to go out with 150€ and i want play only strong hands but the 150 i have after the secound hand first hand KQ suited hit the Q in the Flop gives me 20€,secound hand AK suited and make a preflop raise to 16 and 5 players go out 2 of then had bet 8€
This was a very nice day i was sitting on a 10 seater and there where only 3 good players the rest was complete stupid.
The one player this i beat with the full house buy in with over 2000€ the other player between 100-300 but this one with the 2000 play every hand every time call every time lost never show this hand that was funny.As i go he had lost i think over 600€ in an hour.
He was young anyone say me a few days later he was a good tourney player.I give him the name Phil like Phil Helmuth a good tourney player but very bad in cash game

Edited by watoba (Monday, September 22, 2014 @ 16:19 GMT)


     
  6-Dec-14, 23:43   #10
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leno1 
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Hello man,

I have no idea what the odds of getting dealt absolutely identical cards at the same time in two tournaments. But I guess that the chances are pretty slim. It happened to me once, but it were not the same colors.


     
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