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  16-Oct-14, 13:02   #1
Rake Requirement (DuckPoker) 0 
Tony_MON7ANA 

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DuckPoker states on their webpage at http://www.duckpoker.com/terms-conditions/ as of October 12, 2014:

5 Promotions, Bonuses and Offers

5.1 We reserve the right to modify, delay or cancel any promotion, bonus or offer at any time without prior notice.
5.2 All ‘No Deposit Bonus’ and ‘Free Bonus’ related withdrawals require players to earn a specific number of Player Points (between 30 to 100 Player Points per coupon) as noted in each promotion’s individual terms. Until the Player Points requirements are met, players may make withdrawals equal to any real money deposits that have been made.
5.3 All ‘Real Money Freeroll’ related withdrawals require players to earn 30 Player Points per $5 in Freeroll winnings. Until the Player Points requirements are met, players may make withdrawals equal to any real money deposits that have been made.


5.3 was added very recently and it will have a great impact on all active players.
What Duck is claiming is that players will not be able to withdraw any freeroll winnings until rake requirement is met. In other words, Duck will withhold players' funds (except the amount of their initial deposit) until they rake equal to or greater than their net winnings.
Hypothetically, when some lucky player who deposited minumim $5 wins real money freeroll earning $200 top prize, he needs to earn 1,200 Player Points (or $200 in rake) prior to even attempting to cashout his net winnings.

Seriously? Hey, guys, do you think it makes sense at all?

Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (Thursday, October 16, 2014 @ 13:08 GMT)


     
  16-Oct-14, 15:10   #2
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Heskor 
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Well they have to do something as they losing money due to people coming in get bonus win something then go away and they lose as their cash flow is not good more cashout then money coming in so they will have to resort to desperate measures, but most likely it is a temporary thing or something , every new site started with restrictions, anyway just stick and do the rake if you good otherwise avoid it and go play on other old sites!

     
  16-Oct-14, 16:19   #3
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Tony_MON7ANA 

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Thanks for your reply, Heskor.

I can see, as you mentioned, Duck has been struggling financially since their launch early 2014. In case a relatively smaller poker site as Duck fails to succeed, which we have observed several cases in the past years, unfortunately, there is almost nothing players could do to retrieve their funds.

Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (Thursday, October 16, 2014 @ 16:33 GMT)


     
  16-Oct-14, 19:54   #4
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Mober 
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Always the new sites trying to draw new players with freerolls.
But if they take the money and leave then it is difficult for them,
unless they have a satisfying number of deposits.
If they dont have real money from deposits to rake, then this is the last measure
they can take, before going down.

     
  17-Oct-14, 01:43   #5
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Tony_MON7ANA 

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Mober, thanks for your comments.
I have to totally agree with you about the desperate situation that Duck "An online poker site that Puts Players First!" is facing.

*Moderator, please move this thread to Poker Forum subforum.

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I FORGOT TO MENTION SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
WHEN THEY F*CK OR EVEN TRY TO FU*K WITH ME I WILL TAKE THEM WITH ME TO THE F*CKING HELL.

Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (Friday, October 17, 2014 @ 19:00 GMT)


     
  19-Oct-14, 19:09   #6
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Tony_MON7ANA 

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DuckPoker is one of the best online poker operators in terms of manufacturing deceitful, ambiguous terms and conditions retrospectively whenever they seek means of restricting or even preventing marginal outflows of their already pathetic, miserable liquid assets available.
I am quite curious what kind of desperate measures they would take when I request withdrawals this month.
It would serve as a typical example to both current and prospective players how fraudulent operator manipulates their clients.

Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (Sunday, October 19, 2014 @ 19:26 GMT)


     
  21-Oct-14, 20:18   #7
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Tony_MON7ANA 

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It is like some criminals refusing to release hostages until ransom is paid in full. I bet even ransom demand is fulfilled they will come up with another ridiculous fu*king sh*t while keeping their clients in the dark as long as they could.

I will update the situation periodically not only on here but also to all over the world.
Worship

     
  21-Oct-14, 20:29   #8
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TheMachineQC 

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So what exactly are they doing wrong? You constantly moan but don't give any details. Tongue

If your plan is to just play freerolls and withdraw the winnings then you're not a customer to them Blink Duckpocker has very low rake (like 4,5%), and isn't even 1 year old, give them time to improve. Lower rake is a smart move on their part, I don't understand why it doesn't attract more players.

     
  22-Oct-14, 03:49   #9
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Tony_MON7ANA 

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Posted by TheMachineQC:
So what exactly are they doing wrong? You constantly moan but don't give any details. Tongue

If your plan is to just play freerolls and withdraw the winnings then you're not a customer to them Blink Duckpocker has very low rake (like 4,5%), and isn't even 1 year old, give them time to improve. Lower rake is a smart move on their part, I don't understand why it doesn't attract more players.



Just to clarify, I have no intention of disclosing sensitive information on public forum. Also, I do not think I have ever asked you to be judgmental towards my comments with incomplete, biased knowledge.

Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (Wednesday, October 22, 2014 @ 04:20 GMT)


     
  27-Oct-14, 16:10   #10
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Tony_MON7ANA 

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Judgement day is coming very soon. Worship

     
  29-Oct-14, 06:45   #11
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Tony_MON7ANA 

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- As a reminder in case (actually I strongly believe) Duck is suffering with amnesia.


OCT 20, 2014 | **:**AM UTC
DuckPoker Support replied:
Hello,

Correct, as of now, your points requirement is *** in order to remove restrictions on your account.

Thank you,

Best regards,
The DuckPoker Team


OCT 19, 2014 | **:**PM UTC
DuckPoker Support replied:
Hello,

Once all applicable requirements are met, you may withdrawal any amount in your balance.

Thank you,

Best regards,
The DuckPoker Team


- Let's see what happens when I do request a withdrawal.

     
  7-Nov-14, 03:01   #12
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Tony_MON7ANA 

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Player point requirement has been met.
Withdrawal request is in pending status.

If it does not get through this time for some ridiculous reason AGAIN, you all know what I am gonna fucking do.

     
  7-Nov-14, 04:38   #13
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pinotte 
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Posted by TheMachineQC:
So what exactly are they doing wrong? You constantly moan but don't give any details. Tongue

If your plan is to just play freerolls and withdraw the winnings then you're not a customer to them Blink Duckpocker has very low rake (like 4,5%), and isn't even 1 year old, give them time to improve. Lower rake is a smart move on their part, I don't understand why it doesn't attract more players.


You should go verify competition rake and you will see that they are not the best in rake.

If you offer freeroll and you cnt pay the winning you dont offer them.
You win $100.00 in playing freeroll you should be able to cash out without restriction.
Win 100.00 playing on my site and give me 100.00 or i wont pay you where is my risk of being in business.
Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused

     
  8-Nov-14, 06:18   #14
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Tony_MON7ANA 

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Over 30 hours passed since I made withdrawal request and there has been no email confirmation or any sort of response from Duck.

Last time this fucking fraudulent operator had kept me waiting for 10 days until they finally managed to manufacture fucking ridiculous, totally retarded excuses out of blue, that are described in my first post on this thread.

Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (Saturday, November 08, 2014 @ 06:30 GMT)


     
  8-Nov-14, 14:34   #15
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stas486 
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+1 dead duck doesnt pay money...what exactly are you going to do?

     
  8-Nov-14, 18:21   #16
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Mober 
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Wait till monday to see what will happen. Even though cashier in all sites work
for the whole week.
There is a leader board there running at the moment, so this is a bit of a plus
getting your money. You can ask from BRM to see what is going on there also.

     
  8-Nov-14, 19:07   #17
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TheMachineQC 

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Thing is, people expect to just win some money in freerolls, go double up 2-3 times in cash games and withdraw... Blink

"5.3 All ‘Real Money Freeroll’ related withdrawals require players to earn 30 Player Points per $5 in Freeroll winnings. Until the Player Points requirements are met, players may make withdrawals equal to any real money deposits that have been made."

It's not that bad... Of course you're gonna need a bit of success at ring games or sit n goes to make points. What we really need to know is once all the requirements are met will they pay or not. Big Smile But the leaderboard is just getting started...

Edited by TheMachineQC (Saturday, November 08, 2014 @ 19:11 GMT)


     
  8-Nov-14, 21:36   #18
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Tony_MON7ANA 

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Thank you very much for your concern, I really do.

According to their cashier T&C at http://www.duckpoker.com/real-money/cashier-terms-and-c... and at http://www.duckpoker.com/real-money/ normal time frame for processing and completing withdrawal request is 48 to 72 hours.

I will recheck the projectiles for the bazooka are properly loaded while waiting for another fucking long hours.

Say hello to my little friend, BOOM!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_z4IuxAqpE



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Moderator, please lock this thread.
Thank you very much.

Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (Sunday, November 09, 2014 @ 19:59 GMT)


     
  9-Nov-14, 21:40   #19
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rasheek77 

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[QUOTE]

Say hello to my little friend, BOOM!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_z4IuxAqpE



Bahahaha love it Tony

     
  9-Nov-14, 21:49   #20
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bowie1984 

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Location: Hungary
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Tony we really luv ya but almost all of your comments are pissed of rants about how Duck treating you badly.
I know its a real sh1thole and whatnot, but isnt this boring to you? They payed you, they closed your acc, what more do you want?
I just couldnt understand why waste more anger on them. Yeah they sucks, So what?

     
  9-Nov-14, 22:42   #21
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Tony_MON7ANA 

Joined: Mar '14
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You're right!
Thanks for putting up with me even when I really didn't feel like putting up with myself.
No more whining! I feel much better now. Evil

Edited by Tony_MON7ANA (Sunday, November 09, 2014 @ 23:18 GMT)


     
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