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I phucking hate this hand. ALWAYS is happening this to me.... This is the most phucking hand that i hate. Pockets Jacks. i loose 80%+ of the time, and 80%+ when i play against it. Today i lost 3 or 4 times.... against JJ and 2 or 3 times with it...
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Posted by qzmag: I phucking hate this hand. ALWAYS is happening this to me.... This is the most phucking hand that i hate. Pockets Jacks. i loose 80%+ of the time, and 80%+ when i play against it. Today i lost 3 or 4 times.... against JJ and 2 or 3 times with it...
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'Run it Twice' saved my ass, lmao!
PokerStars Zoom Hand #1259***02193 Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2014/11/28 20:49:44 PT Table 'McNaught' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: tyku666 ($2.10 in chips) Seat 2: lifeforward1 ($0.64 in chips) Seat 3: Miguer ($2.63 in chips) Seat 4: SteckKiller ($2.43 in chips) Seat 5: 4ika4 ($1.06 in chips) Seat 6: HosszuZoli ($3.71 in chips) Seat 7: Vegas777Baby ($2.02 in chips) Seat 8: flash check ($2.10 in chips) Seat 9: Zebrandy2 ($2.51 in chips) lifeforward1: posts small blind $0.01 Miguer: posts big blind $0.02 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Vegas777Baby SteckKiller: folds 4ika4: folds HosszuZoli: folds Vegas777Baby: raises $0.02 to $0.04 flash check: calls $0.04 Zebrandy2: folds tyku666: raises $0.15 to $0.19 lifeforward1: folds Miguer: folds Vegas777Baby: calls $0.15 flash check: calls $0.15 *** FLOP *** Vegas777Baby: checks flash check: checks tyku666: bets $0.20 Vegas777Baby: raises $0.26 to $0.46 flash check: folds tyku666: calls $0.26 *** TURN *** Vegas777Baby: checks tyku666: bets $0.51 Vegas777Baby: raises $0.86 to $1.37 and is all-in tyku666: calls $0.86 *** FIRST RIVER *** *** SECOND RIVER *** *** FIRST SHOW DOWN *** Vegas777Baby: shows (four of a kind, Kings) tyku666: shows (a full house, Aces full of Kings) Vegas777Baby collected $2.06 from pot *** SECOND SHOW DOWN *** Vegas777Baby: shows (a full house, Kings full of Aces) tyku666: shows (a full house, Aces full of Kings) tyku666 collected $2.05 from pot
*** SUMMARY *** Total pot $4.26 | Rake $0.15 Hand was run twice FIRST Board SECOND Board Seat 1: tyku666 (button) showed and lost with a full house, Aces full of Kings, and won ($2.05) with a full house, Aces full of Kings Seat 2: lifeforward1 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 3: Miguer (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: SteckKiller folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: 4ika4 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: HosszuZoli folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: Vegas777Baby showed and won ($2.06) with four of a kind, Kings, and lost with a full house, Kings full of Aces Seat 8: flash check folded on the Flop Seat 9: Zebrandy2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Posted by StheP: I want your opinion on this, I am not sure, but I think I run on aces or kings here... didnt even want to call preflop, but I did in last second...
------------ I cought him next time he again raised pre flop huge, I got AK and I got pissed off and just showe... he got JJ, and after seeng table card I thought I lost bcs there wasnt any A or K on table, and than I sow money goes to me xD and I sow there was 2345 on table cards
I think the fold is allright. I would have done the same. He bets pot size so calling him is really difficult. I would only do that if I thoght he was bluffing. But in that case you should have gone all in instead of just calling.
Wow, lucky man. I guess the all in with 33 is the right thing to do, because they are pretty strong preflop and in most cases weak afterwords. But if you are up against a higher pair you almost certainly loose. Well - not this time.
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Posted by qzmag: I phucking hate this hand. ALWAYS is happening this to me.... This is the most phucking hand that i hate. Pockets Jacks. i loose 80%+ of the time, and 80%+ when i play against it. Today i lost 3 or 4 times.... against JJ and 2 or 3 times with it...
I had times when i folded this shitty hand. But now i didn't afford to phucking fold it... i had less than 3 BB.
Come on mate, what else should you have done in that situation. The blinds were so high, I do not think you would have got a better hand before you were in the blind for the next time. All in here is definitely right.
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Game started at: 2014/12/11 20:30:14 Game ID: 9814538 100/200 $10 Daily GTD Super Turbo - 18:00, Table 2 (Hold'em) Seat 4 is the button Seat 1: ar93 (2250). Seat 2: Punisher (1130). Seat 3: RafilsksAAPP (645). Seat 4: maksimillian1989 (575). Seat 5: orrkid44 (2570). Seat 7: qzmag08 (2100). Seat 9: tomek18 (4150). Player orrkid44 ante (20) Player qzmag08 ante (20) Player tomek18 ante (20) Player ar93 ante (20) Player Punisher ante (20) Player RafilsksAAPP ante (20) Player maksimillian1989 ante (20) Player orrkid44 has small blind (100) Player qzmag08 has big blind (200) Player orrkid44 received a card. Player orrkid44 received a card. Player qzmag08 received card: Player qzmag08 received card: Player tomek18 received a card. Player tomek18 received a card. Player ar93 received a card. Player ar93 received a card. Player Punisher received a card. Player Punisher received a card. Player RafilsksAAPP received a card. Player RafilsksAAPP received a card. Player maksimillian1989 received a card. Player maksimillian1989 received a card. Player tomek18 folds Player ar93 folds Player Punisher folds Player RafilsksAAPP folds Player maksimillian1989 allin (555) Player orrkid44 folds Player qzmag08 calls (355) *** FLOP ***: [Ah Ac 7d] *** TURN ***: [Ah Ac 7d] *** RIVER ***: [Ah Ac 7d Ad] ------ Summary ------ Pot: 1350. Rake 0 Board: [Ah Ac 7d Ad As] Player ar93 does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20. Player Punisher does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20. Player RafilsksAAPP does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20. Player maksimillian1989 shows: Four of kind of As [Qc 4d]. Bets: 575. Collects: 0. Loses: 575. Player orrkid44 does not show cards.Bets: 120. Collects: 0. Loses: 120. *Player qzmag08 shows: Four of kind of As (kicker K) [Kh Kc]. Bets: 575. Collects: 1350. Wins: 775. Player tomek18 does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20. Game ended at: 2014/12/11 20:30:46
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Shiiiiiit. I have just lost with AK suited against a pair of 6 in the VIPoker league on Pokerstars. The tournament was going really good for me. I tripled my chipstack, but then lost two hands against the same loose guy.
Well what are you complaining about my friend. You have lost that KQ suited hand and you deserve it so in my opinion. Reraising preflop is pretty risky, but OK. But calling the all in with an A on the flop is too loose for me.
Well what are you complaining about my friend. You have lost that KQ suited hand and you deserve it so in my opinion. Reraising preflop is pretty risky, but OK. But calling the all in with an A on the flop is too loose for me.
no complaining here actually laughed
thought on turn LOL valid call, on river jokerstars
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I was playing premier league tournament the second hand of the game i am big blind with 9 9 the UTG limp all others players fold come to me i raised and the UTG shoved and i call he show A K and of course he got is ace on the flop game over for me.
------------ Its not my day first hand of 100K privilege freeroll
** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to pinotte1943 [Js Jc] pinotte1943: raises 20 to 40 Goldorak16: folds AlfaPvP: raises 146 to 186 moonbeam360: calls 186 zm4tty: folds torvic_weed: folds DICO-1966: folds batva_1993: folds chacho572: raises 1010 to 1196 and is all-in pinotte1943: calls 1156 and is all-in AlfaPvP: calls 1010 and is all-in moonbeam360: calls 1010 and is all-in *** FLOP *** [Th 7h 6d] *** TURN *** [Th 7h 6d] *** RIVER *** [Th 7h 6d 9c] *** SHOW DOWN *** chacho572: shows [8c Ac] (a straight, Six to Ten) pinotte1943: shows [Js Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens) AlfaPvP: shows [9d Kd] (two pair, Nines and Sevens) moonbeam360: shows [4c 4s] (two pair, Sevens and Fours) chacho572 collected 4830 from po
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share yur hand well!!!best part of my winnings is to be more agressive to be able to get more chips if possible 60percent is possible to make up to the final table,but using tight plyin quite some hard fish agressive is more lucky than tight i usually observed this kind of stupid method but what should we do we all wanted to win in any ways ...
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Think about it guys if what you are doing is not getting you the results u wish you should consider changing your gameplay! Whats the point to "play by the book" if you never even get close to final table.
Poker is about LUCK! Either you have alot of awesome draws AA KK AK etc... or have balls to bluff or go risk a 3 way with your 8,9 hearts etc... You cant possibly imagine how often it will land you a good spot for endgame... Otherwise you will get over the bubble with "play by the book" gameplay and have like 1$ profit for 3-4 hours of playing and even that is not certain... f**k that, is not what p0ker is about, it is gamble and people who say its not probably dont count how many times they deposited xy amounts of money to reach that final table for the first time and get some of it back, how many turneys failed due to not risking a bit at times when you feel like you should and in the end getting sucked in by blinds blaming it on "got no good cards..." imagine the other players didnt get them either but had balls to risk a bit more and got a bit more in the end.
Check turney structures is it 3,5,10,15 min blinds and play based on that, check what kind of players are on the table now and then, go pay that 5,10,20% of your credits on river to see what cards he has, will help you reach a decision next time u go against him with 80%...
Comes down to luck in the end.
You see someone playing safe and folding all the time and comes into game with a minumum raise, call that raise, you can be sure he has AK or AA or something awesome, but if you hold flush or straight draw go check till river, risk some of that chips, will reward you often.
In anyway, if it doesnt bring you good results change that and try something different (after 1 month)
------------ haha another one of those "setup" games where you just shake head and ...
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It's hardly a setup... no one forced you to call a raise with K3... You were completely dominated by the KK, and only had one live clean out vs the 55, so you willingly put yourself in a terrible situation.
After that flop, you really had to repush and isolate against the 55... flatting there makes no sense at all.
So basically, anything bad that came from it was entirely your own fault... don't complain saying it's a setup.. take a look at your own play first.
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Posted by yout85: It's hardly a setup... no one forced you to call a raise with K3... You were completely dominated by the KK, and only had one live clean out vs the 55, so you willingly put yourself in a terrible situation.
After that flop, you really had to repush and isolate against the 55... flatting there makes no sense at all.
So basically, anything bad that came from it was entirely your own fault... don't complain saying it's a setup.. take a look at your own play first.
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(a full house, Aces full of Kings)
