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  21-Feb-15, 18:29   #1
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klash23 
Joined: Mar '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 38 (F)
Posts: 2243
I have to admit I had never heard of this room before I saw this report but it seems it was a bitcoin based operation.Unfortunately it appears to have run into some difficulty and has released this info for it's members.........."WE URGE ALL PLAYERS TO WITHDRAW THEIR FUNDS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. PLAYERS SHOULD CEASE ALL ACTIVITY TO THEIR ACCOUNT DEPOSIT ADDRESSSES NOW."
link to release
https://sealswithclubs.eu/

     
  21-Feb-15, 18:44   #2
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (F)
Posts: 2196
i experimented with SWC but found it an awful site and gave up on it without making anything

     
  21-Feb-15, 18:56   #3
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klash23 
Joined: Mar '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 38 (F)
Posts: 2243
I had never heard of it before or seen it advertised anywhere and judging by their past security blunders I'm glad I missed them.At least they had the good grace to let players know they are closing. Smile

     
  21-Feb-15, 22:32   #4
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bowie1984 

Joined: Apr '12
Location: Hungary
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 4685
Oh, I was totally unaware that this site exists at all - judging by the title alone I was expecting some enviromental or PETA remarks against clubbing baby seals to the death at the Artics. Wow, why would anybody named his site to something like this - it's both funny and sad that I associated something wrong from it.

     
  21-Feb-15, 22:40   #5
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luisexy69 

Joined: Jan '12
Location: Portugal
Age: 25 (M)
Posts: 405
Like klash23 said, i am glad that never heard that room before, and this just shows that in the market exist many of rooms, a lot maybe are like this, and others are a quite time to give up, but try to go and go futher and chase the happiness, without care the players or the name that they will give and stay in the community, more of this rooms not get enought strategies to get up the room properly, and after a few months, years they close, without a good or nice explanation.
But is this that moves the world.

Enjoy sun and life, keep playing safe.

     
  22-Feb-15, 07:58   #6
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IceQueenAce 
Joined: Feb '13
Location: United Kingdom
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Posts: 2196
To be fair to them they were going a long time, they arent some pop-up site that comes along, takes money and runs off with it.

They came along looking to exploit bitcoins, which seemed like the next big thing at the time.

Had bitcoins taken off and replaced online money with cash, they would have been massive.

     
  22-Feb-15, 09:23   #7
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Theapple 

Joined: Sep '13
Location: Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posts: 1552
lol bowie Big Smile

but yeah havent heard of this one either, heck i didnt even know there were some bitcoin based poker sites/network. oh well you learn something new every day Tongue

poor seals :/

     
  22-Feb-15, 09:28   #8
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 4862
This site just sounds wrong! While some may argue it's the weak fighting back, they may be right, coz they got into your head, and no doubt the old saying, that if something looks too good to be true then it probably is probably right. Or maybe I am just missing the point!

     
  22-Feb-15, 10:02   #9
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6441
Quite a while back, a lot of people playing on SWC made a small fortune when bitcoin boomed in a huge way, they made more money (considerably) by simply not playing poker at all.. That is about the only thing that made me wish I played on this room - it just never got enough traffic otherwise, to be worth playing.

That said, poker with bitcoins is a great idea, if a cautious one; there is a lot of security issues that could work for or against you. And fraud concerns would make it hard for a room to obtain a good license.

That said - if the licensing/regulation could be worked out - bitcoins are a fantastic way forward for online, to avoid the b******t that happened in the States with the DoJ

     
  22-Feb-15, 15:45   #10
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av1966 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 1500
I did not play there but at least they are letting people to cash out they did not simple vanished the the players funds Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

There a you tube video of the ceo Bryan Micon statement to internet about the events of 11/02/2015

He claims on the video they he will carry on there is also a link to a video where he says that a new dominion will be up soon Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

Don´t forget to be happy and enjoy life Worship Worship

     
  22-Feb-15, 16:25   #11
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Heskor 
Joined: May '13
Location: Mauritius
Age: 25 (M)
Posts: 2659
it is easy to spot fakes sites and all you just have to be extra careful first of all when you see new sites do not joined instantly and donate your money too them , take some time to research it if it is new there will obviously be not much to say about them but the best thing to do will be to wait for it to go online and see how it does for a few months or so or even a year or two, if you see it is till low traffic and all then you can say you doge a bullet!

     
  22-Feb-15, 17:27   #12
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10034
At least they are giving their players the chance to withdraw their money.
Not like some other sites, that they just shut down and keep everything.
And if you are a small player with freeroll winnings then you can say it is ok.
But if you have deposited then it is outrageous.

     
  22-Feb-15, 19:15   #13
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klash23 
Joined: Mar '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 38 (F)
Posts: 2243
A very strange name for a poker site,if I owned an internet poker site I would at least have the word poker somewhere in the name.When a site loses it's trust then I think it is near impossible to get it back.lets hope everyone gets their money back. Smile

     
  24-Feb-15, 08:32   #14
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magatt966 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 3713
Lot of disinformation in this thread.
Except for JessTheHuman and someone else.

1) Unless a lot of traditional poker rooms (Fulltilt, pokerminds, ballpoker just to mention some advertised here) SWC did not steal any bitcoin from player balances: they are also allowing withdrawal to players whose balance is under the minimum withdrawable in normal operating conditions.

2) They closed their old site becasue of USA wills: Micon is moving to another country and it is going to reopen under a slightly different name (swcpoker instead of old sealswithclubs)

3) All VIP status gained and affiliates program achieved with "old" account may be linked to "new" account with the new site/software; only condition is to have an email associated to your account (email was optional ....you only need a username and a password to play there ...no doxing and nothing). So they will take faith to every single deal they currently have.

4) Traffic was really low if compared to the main traditional pokerrooms but being an indipendent bitcoinbased poker site it was the leading player in its market. It was also the first one and earned a solid reputation in bitcoin world.

5) With these last events, and the way they managet them (consider FBI agents went to micon's houes with guns and everything) sealswithclubs/scwpoker gained even more trust of what they already had.

     
  24-Feb-15, 09:29   #15
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Theapple 

Joined: Sep '13
Location: Bosnia and Herzegovina
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agree with you klash. its like owning a car rental company and naming it Turtles Cant Fly.

@magatt, thanks for the info... that last part is a bit scary Tongue But yeah, not sure why would anyone set up their independent, online based business in US anymore really. They come up with a few nonsensical rules every day, and depending on your business, you cant really compete with already established giants either.

     
  24-Feb-15, 15:04   #16
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magatt966 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
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Posts: 3713
Posted by Theapple:
agree with you klash. its like owning a car rental company and naming it Turtles Cant Fly.

@magatt, thanks for the info... that last part is a bit scary Tongue But yeah, not sure why would anyone set up their independent, online based business in US anymore really. They come up with a few nonsensical rules every day, and depending on your business, you cant really compete with already established giants either.


Can't agree more.

The ones who claim to export democracy in other countries (often, if not always, using bombs) don't let its citizens freedom to decide aboout gambling.....but ...hey...you can always sleep with a gun on your beside table

     
  27-Feb-15, 09:58   #17
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magatt966 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 3713
Update:

sealswithclub reopened yesterday under a slightly different name: swcpoker.eu

If someone wanna give a try I may help if needed: just shot me an email @gmail.com

you just have to guess the part of my email address before @gmail.com


HINT: it is written in red somewhere around here Cool

Edited by magatt966 (Friday, February 27, 2015 @ 10:03 GMT)


     
  27-Feb-15, 20:02   #18
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10034
Since they treated to players nice with their shutting down by giving players warnings
and the most important allowing them to cash out, along with the fact that they have
magatt's endorsement (i believe so Smile), then why not trying the new site also.

     
  28-Feb-15, 12:45   #19
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magatt966 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 3713
Posted by Mober:
Since they treated to players nice with their shutting down by giving players warnings
and the most important allowing them to cash out, along with the fact that they have
magatt's endorsement (i believe so Smile), then why not trying the new site also.


lol thank lady for the kind words Heart

they have my endorsement...but it is based on their behaviour towards their customers.

Let me know if I you need any help

PS: just take in consideratoin they just reopened with a brand new poker software so lot of things are to be tested and some misfunctioning is happening

     
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