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seems that world only talking when they care about things that they want and when they need!

     
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Posted by portbet:
you would be silent further?

Silent on what? Specify.
Posted by portbet:
do you treat people with different ethnicities differently?

No, but as Russians are and have been historically European and are are right next door, it would be have them back, as equals and in peace and it is the only State that is currently causing unrest and making war.
Posted by portbet:
Are you a Nazi?

F**k off with that. Illogical slander and not relevant to the discussion.

one well-known state did this many, many times before 2008. why didn't you say anything? where is your sympathy for the collateral damage? where are your BRM posts for example?

I joined BRM in 2009, so it would be difficult for me to have history here commenting on anything prior to that. Name any item here you would like me to comment on at this point, to try to make your point, that has so serious a consequence as is the situation today where Nukes are being threatened, total war offered as a solution, without calling me names.

However, I assume you are talking about the USA, and so anything they have done in the past means it is OK for Czar Puitn to do anything he wants? Totally a false equivalence and horrible logic,

The USA, French, English, German, Ottoman, Russia, USSR, China and just about every other "civilization" have all done bad s**t, none of which I would highly, most probably agree with, sanction or support and none of this justifies any other State doing bad s**t today.





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Posted by dule-vu:
yes, usa did took kosovo from serbia, thats why they have flags of usa on half of kosovo, statue of bill clinton, camp bondsteel and many other things! they even made "racak" that they can start war and bombing of serbia.

Not to annex, own and possess it though or to make any money from it, Bondsteel seems a bit dodgy, needs to be more open (transparent) and then shut-down as soon as possible. Your view on Racak contravenes Yugoslav–Belarusian and UN, via Finland investigation and sounds like a bulls**t conspiracy theory

Posted by dule-vu:
seems that world only talking when they care about things that they want and when they need!

The only need in Ukraine is Peace, no oil, no sea ports or even tactical need. I will use Srebrenica as an example again, the UN and then NATO acted too late in the whole situation, went in with basically unarmed, unsupported peace-keepers what a mess that turned into and yes they cared, and the they had reviews, discussions and agreed to try to never let this kind of thing happen again.

Edited by 3pokeronly (27 January 2023 @ 10:34 GMT)


     
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if we want peace in Ukraine, USA, NATO, Khazars or Zionists Jews and their Mercenaries must leave Europe. It is the only solution because the specified ones represent a danger for the whole of humanity.

     
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It's good that Russians can play on GG poker , which is one of the greatest poker rooms nowadays . That means they can still earn money through poker , very important thing for regs and pros from Russia . Also they can play on ACR , I saw one yesterday on ACR . I know 888poker and PokerStars has banned them , I think also PartyPoker has banned them .

I am against the war but making the lives of simple citizens harder will not make Putin stop . Putin and the oligarchs in Russia will keep on having everything they desire , and keep on this war , so why punish the poor Russians ?? In Russia they do not have real democracy, so they go like sheep after the leader , and repeat his b******t ,big they do not do so they might get punished . For sure many are against this war in Russia . By punishing everyone , you also punish the good guys , the guys in Russia who do not desire this war . This is unfair . I think now that there is this war , in Russia there is limited freedom of what sb can say for this war and Russia 's part , at least in the media .

Anyway , these wars are made in USA . USA could have stopped Russia if it desired , but Americans don't care in reality . Everything else is for the eyes of the media and the masses , aspirin measures , fake news .

     
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here we have to understand one thing. Russia is not guilty. They do the right thing. In order to understand what is happening, we need to document starting with 2014 and the Euro Maidan in Ukraine. The culprits are the USA, the European Union, the Jewish bankers and their mercenaries.

     
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Thanks for the post antonis321, relevant, on-topic, balanced and not a Putin apologist.

Posted by antonis321:
I am against the war

Good start.
Posted by antonis321:
In Russia they do not have real democracy

They have never had it, they went through a painful transition 1990-2000 which started putting in systems of governance, justice etc and huge economic upheaval. Next time, which I hope happens as soon as this bunch of power and money hungry goons, (disguised as anti-nazi, anti-fascist, anti-liberal) are removed from power and their billions, upon billions confiscated.
Posted by antonis321:
USA could have stopped Russia

They could of tried at several stages, hugely risky though, and occasionally Russia showed signs of progress, including 1991-2000, 2011-2013 Putin put an end to that.

Speaking of sheep tho...




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Posted by CALICUL:
Russia is not guilty.

Agreed.
The Russian Federation and Putin are though of many many violations.

     
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I'm curious to see if there in 888 Poker are Russians players, because i've given up looking at their country of origin when i play. In NetBet i can't see it, but sometimes i see the Russian flag. I haven't played in Pokerstars a long period, but i will enter to see.

     
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The war against Ukraine was supposed to be the main achievement of Vladimir Putin. It was assumed that the capture of Ukraine would be the first step in the restoration of the "Russian Empire". But war by its very nature is unpredictable, and predictions that Ukraine would quickly collapse turned out to be wrong. And Russia, it seems, is headed for defeat!!!

     
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it remains to be seen what result this armed conflict will have.

     
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Russia will break up into separate republics along ethnic lines, armed clans will be formed that will fight among themselves.

     
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I don't know what plans there are, but it must be good for the Russians. If Russia will be in separate republics, then the consequences could be disastrous...

     
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catastrophic for russia!!!!!!!

     
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Thumbs Up

     
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Russia is not guilty! Wtf are you talking. Who annexed Crimea in 2014, who started conflict in Donetsk/Lugansk. Who started full-scale invasion in 2022 ? Same pattern is on whole time RF existed - look I and II war in Chechnia, look Georgia.

     
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small people are always in problems when something like this happen, its same in every war! we will see how this will finish, if everything finish soon!

     
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pokkerimees, I was trying to draw a distinction and I am using the fact that Russia is only one country in the wider Federation, it, and the wider Russian people are generally not guilty, even if their silence, is in some way complicit.

I lay the blame totally and categorically at the feet of Putin and the Russian Federation controlled by him and his ex-KGB, now FSB cronies and associated scumbags.

If you look at Putin's history it is so clear, as an example in the 1990's he got involved in Moscow city politics, mysterious deaths, unfortunate accidents followed him, incomplete investigations, corruption and graft become endemic, it now continues on a broader scale.

In 2002, on a visit to Ukraine he stated he recognizes Ukraine as a separate legal country and respected their borders, in 2004 he applied huge pressure on the Ukraine government and used the gas pipelines to hold them to ransom, described by one commentator as "declaring unofficial financial war on Ukraine". He is and always has been a murdak scumbag, he will do anything, literally ANYTHING to hold onto power or it is the end of him and his view of the Russian Federation that controls all of the old Russian empire, the expanded USSR, all of Europe and all of the west in one way or ANY other.


     
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Posted by CALICUL:
Russia is not guilty.

Big Smile

     
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3pokeronly , my response was not to you, but for CALICUL indeed.
RF is ruled by authoritarian regime, no free media, no freedom of speech, massive brainwashing going on. I understand , this is the reason why 63% of RF citizens support bombing of critical civilian infrastructure in Ukraine. But i just cant feel sorry for them right now - they are not under shelling every day.

     
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normal people will just feel everything, not rich people, no matter on what side or country!

     
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I think you wanted to use word "regular" or "ordinary" , not normal.

63% of those ordinary people in RF support bombing civilian objects in Ukraine.

And you can not compare suffering of RF regular people and Ukraine people. People die in Ukraine . People dont die in RF, so i dont have any compassion for them.

     
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