As of February 2nd we will change the payout for signups from certain countries. All countries that currently pay out 1000 MobPoints for level #1 players will be reduced with up to 50%, including approvelevel 2, 3 and 4.We have been analysing data for quite some time now and due to various factors such as changes in global economy with less depositors as a result, increasing fraud accounts/request[...] Read more » BRM Affiliates: Mob Points update
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Posted by kraemer: t You get paid for every verified Sign-Up.
In my experience the BRM approach has proven to be a little more lucrative. But it depends on how many high quality signups You generate.
Not quite true, i have lots of verified Sign-Ups without payment to me. But do think its a nice system, always expected it to go down abit i hope it doesnot come back to bite them. As for me i think halfing it all is a little steep, and the posative thinking is good, but doing twice the amount of work for the same goal is a put of for me, i guess thats someone elses gain. But i think they have outher plans for affliates so lets wait and see.
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i suppose if we dont like it we can walk, but for me it was hardly worth the effort with the old system (especialy when i blow all my points on the safe and the draw) and now with the new system, hmmm, i guess we"ll wait and see.
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Admin, why don't you set up a points system for the affiliate program? Like if the referred player earned x number of points than affiliate is paid x number of $. That's how all the other competitor sites work. And that way, the money goes to the right person.
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well in my opinion BRM should put all points in one. or rather said to force them to verify their ID by phone and ID proof. firstly it prevents fraud or at least there would be less fraud ? and 2nd the affiliates would have more of it. because if you put effort in affiliates and lets say you refer 10 people and they all only verify their ID by phone then you only get $10 ! thats not worth the time to be honest.
geneyuss example for instance is a good one and trully practised by most competitors.
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Posted by GeneYuss: Admin, why don't you set up a points system for the affiliate program? Like if the referred player earned x number of points than affiliate is paid x number of $. That's how all the other competitor sites work. And that way, the money goes to the right person.
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no realmagic6666. the amount of raked points by a certain pokerclient. so if this guy makes 10.000 points then you get $100 for instance.
i assume (i dont know if im right) that BRM basically decrease the mob points because of fraud. and this way BRM would be on the safe side. because the players have to send in their ID, bank account or whatever to the pokerrooms to proof their ID. almost 90.000 users....i dont wanna know how many of them have multiple accounts. and i think thats what geneyuss meant with " this way the money goes to the right person".
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Posted by crackfinder: Since you guys are gonna be reducing the payouts for signups by 50%, maybe you should reduce the minimum amount of points for cashing out too, to make it fair
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T3ddyKGB, yep, that's what I meant. I talked to Admin a long time ago and I think he said it's not possible to track the rake at all sites but other sites can do it so I don't know.
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Hi All,
We will be comming with more info soon (this week or next), and will also be launching other revenue streams for our affiliates. Right now we just have to put our "brakes" in, until we figure out properly how to award the "good" affiliates and how to avoid the "have all my friends create a mob-account eventhough they dont know how to play poker" affiliates.
We will also be looking at a more "reward based" system, where the "better" the players referred, the higher the reward.
I can see that some of you guys are writing about "my new site" etc., if any of you feel that you have the potential to do decent traffic, please feel free to contact me directly on: [email protected], so that we can discuss various options that we might be able to offer you at this point.
Keep up the good work guys. We will also be looking at the minimum cashout requirement and get back this week.
because if you put effort in affiliates and lets say you refer 10 people and they all only verify their ID by phone then you only get $10 ! thats not worth the time to be honest.
geneyuss example for instance is a good one and trully practised by most competitors.
If You refer the same 10 people to an other site and they are not willling to send in a copy of their ID then You get paid $0. Because some other sites require an ID Copy to get accepted.
In addition to the $10 You already made with these signups on BRM You could get a further $10 if they all get ONE no deposit bonus, becasue You get 100 Points per bonus approved. If they all request and get 5 bonuses You made a total of $60 from just 10 free signups.
To make this on other sites You have to get 6 out of the ten to send in ID and reach 10 or 15 FPPs on the poker site.
You get paid for referrals before they produce rake or deposit. The moment they verify You get paid. If they get a bonus, You get paid.
The system in use on the other sites will only pay You for players who have already generated rake. Depending on the quality of Your sign ups this could be better than the current BRM System ( if Your referrals are high quality ) or worse if You have a lot of bonus whores coming through Your links.
If the system is replaced with something like GeneYuss posted then some "super affiliates" will make far more then they are doing now while the majority will get paid less. ( that's my experience ).
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ID is required here to get full points as well, its very hard to get people to upload ID, most of mine are just phone verified, and thats hard enough, economic crisis aside, i think the system here needs a revamp, i didnt know about all the fraud going on so i apoligise for my earlier negative comments, hopefully it"ll work out well for everyone.
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ive got only 11 approved sign up, thats not much i know but also not bad for only advertising in poker forums (and most forums do not like referallinks). thats like 1 new member per week (since i started being an affiliate) and not one single person is a friend of mine. with my website there will be by far more i hope. and hopefully a good traffic during the next 1-2 months.
8 out 11 sign up have sent in their ID ! - i think its always a matter on "how" you advertise. you have to make clear that BRM only wants their ID to prevent fraud and that they are allowed to blackening their eyes numbers etc..+ that the whole procedure goes faster if they upload their ID.
@kraemer, most of the things you said are true but not everything. anyways i think its not nice to compare BRM with other competitors on their own forum, so i will stop further discussion on that. of course BRM has in some cases its advantage compared to others anyways