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Joined: Feb '09
Location: Belgium
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 686
A simple things prove that poker is a skill game : how can u explain that people like Phil Ivey or Negreanu have got so much bracelet? if poker was a gambling game everyone would have the same chance and Negreanu, Ivey (or another pro) could'nt win so much tournaments. But they did, so it proves that poker is a skill game !
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 4827
Poker is only a lucky game for those who dont play it. The good cards in the hand is part of it, but not all: you can win many times with a pair of aces in the hand, but you cant guarantee you will win allways. The betting is also part of it, but not all: you can make someone fold AJ because you bet too strong with 72, and the oponent just imagine you with a pair of aces in the hand, but you cant do that always. That is why poker is a skill game. You have to know how to make the best movement in each hand, depending on your position on the table, the cards in your hand and the number of oponents.
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 6483
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by shokaku: Wtf. 26.000 games.
Get a life dude.
I have a life, i do this just at night
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But seriously 26,000 games... Lets say multi 9 an hour, he pro lets say 8 hours a day so 70 a day (maybe more). So 2,000 a month so.....
WTF get a life dude
get a life ?? haha his PokerStars account alone is now $200K ++ - plenty of people work 8+ hrs a day 5+ days a week and have less fun doing it and a much smaller bank account at the end of the year.. I'd say this tatta has a life and it's a life many of us dream of
On another note, the poll results currently indicate 20% luck 80% skill - which I've found accross various forums to be a fairly rough consensus of about what the game is made up of.
What kind of question is this??!! lol. Of course it's a skill game! There's some luck, yes. In fact there's quite a bit of luck in the lower limits when you have donkeys pushing BS hands and end up hitting on the river But it's definitely a game more of skill...as we can clearly see the players who know the game and how to read situations, are the most profitable of all.
Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4873
i think for long term poker is mainly skill and less of luck. in short term if you are playing against donks its more of luck and when you are playing against good players its more of skill. And it depends on the type of game you play too.
Joined: Feb '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 1886
Anyone who thinks poker is more luck than skill should be expelled from this site immediately. We are poker players and it is insulting to say that our game is a game of luck. It annoys the hell out of me when people don't give the game any credit and say that it doesn't involve great skill.
All games have an element of luck. Although poker has a great reliance on luck, so do many other sports. In football, the most skillfull team doesn't always win. The luck of the bounce of the ball can create and prevent goals. The draw of the teams ultimately effects the championship. A team can have an easy group or pick up momentum through the order of the games. Then there's injuries, referee's mistakes, weather conditions, penalties...
Quiz players rely mostly on a wide range of knowledge but ultimately they can't know everything. So a lot of the time it is the luck of the question that you know. You can be lucky with the category of questions. There's even more luck in multiple choice questions. But in the end, luck balances out and the most knowledgeable quizzers win more times.
In the long term luck balances out and makes poker a skill game. The only difference with poker is that we study luck. We call it calculated odds and we pray for luck. And more so than other games we sometimes have to take a chance on luck when the odds are right.
