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17-Sep-09, 16:21 #121

doomdy

Posted 17-Sep-09, 16:21 #121

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Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

17-Sep-09, 16:24 #122

dlkiv

Posted 17-Sep-09, 16:24 #122

dlkiv

Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 58 (F)
Posts: 2558

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Also I was thinking that 4 those who do not have like doomdy or webcam, how about a "slideshow: uploaded to utube with pics from dig camera or even reg photos scanned and then uploaded??? there is always a way Smile

17-Sep-09, 16:34 #123

doomdy

Posted 17-Sep-09, 16:34 #123

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Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

17-Sep-09, 16:37 #124

dlkiv

Posted 17-Sep-09, 16:37 #124

dlkiv

Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 58 (F)
Posts: 2558

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

17-Sep-09, 21:59 #125

Flangel

Posted 17-Sep-09, 21:59 #125

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Age: 40 (M)
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Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

Ye she id right

Its time for U to make one.
Altho I am trying to upload and master the 3 minutes on youtube, lets see if someone can beat that then? Smile

Liv ftw

18-Sep-09, 11:48 #126

dlkiv

Posted 18-Sep-09, 11:48 #126

dlkiv

Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 58 (F)
Posts: 2558

Posted by Flangel:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

Ye she id right

Its time for U to make one.
Altho I am trying to upload and master the 3 minutes on youtube, lets see if someone can beat that then? Smile

Liv ftw

u never know flangel perhaps Liv will see ur video Big Smile

18-Sep-09, 18:19 #127

B1gfoot

Posted 18-Sep-09, 18:19 #127

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Posted by Flangel:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

Ye she id right

Its time for U to make one.
Altho I am trying to upload and master the 3 minutes on youtube, lets see if someone can beat that then? Smile

Liv ftw

HAHA Doomdy enterd the twilight zone Big Smile

18-Sep-09, 18:20 #128

dlkiv

Posted 18-Sep-09, 18:20 #128

dlkiv

Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 58 (F)
Posts: 2558

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by Flangel:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

Ye she id right

Its time for U to make one.
Altho I am trying to upload and master the 3 minutes on youtube, lets see if someone can beat that then? Smile

Liv ftw

HAHA Doomdy enterd the twilight zone Big Smile

???? we are still waiting 4 u too B1gfoot Big Smile

18-Sep-09, 18:24 #129

Flangel

Posted 18-Sep-09, 18:24 #129

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Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by Flangel:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

Ye she id right

Its time for U to make one.
Altho I am trying to upload and master the 3 minutes on youtube, lets see if someone can beat that then? Smile

Liv ftw

u never know flangel perhaps Liv will see ur video Big Smile

Then I better make a vid with a giant rock presented and sitting on one knee Big Smile

Liv ftw

18-Sep-09, 18:24 #130

B1gfoot

Posted 18-Sep-09, 18:24 #130

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Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 6714

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by Flangel:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

Ye she id right

Its time for U to make one.
Altho I am trying to upload and master the 3 minutes on youtube, lets see if someone can beat that then? Smile

Liv ftw

HAHA Doomdy enterd the twilight zone Big Smile

???? we are still waiting 4 u too B1gfoot Big Smile

Good things come to those who wait.

18-Sep-09, 18:25 #131

dlkiv

Posted 18-Sep-09, 18:25 #131

dlkiv

Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 58 (F)
Posts: 2558

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by Flangel:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

Ye she id right

Its time for U to make one.
Altho I am trying to upload and master the 3 minutes on youtube, lets see if someone can beat that then? Smile

Liv ftw

HAHA Doomdy enterd the twilight zone Big Smile

???? we are still waiting 4 u too B1gfoot Big Smile

Good things come to those who wait.

yes very true but I could be dead by that time Big Smile

18-Sep-09, 18:26 #132

B1gfoot

Posted 18-Sep-09, 18:26 #132

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Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 6714

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by Flangel:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

Ye she id right

Its time for U to make one.
Altho I am trying to upload and master the 3 minutes on youtube, lets see if someone can beat that then? Smile

Liv ftw

HAHA Doomdy enterd the twilight zone Big Smile

???? we are still waiting 4 u too B1gfoot Big Smile

Good things come to those who wait.

yes very true but I could be dead by that time Big Smile

LOL i could be a Canadian citerzan LOL.

18-Sep-09, 18:27 #133

dlkiv

Posted 18-Sep-09, 18:27 #133

dlkiv

Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 58 (F)
Posts: 2558

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by Flangel:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

Ye she id right

Its time for U to make one.
Altho I am trying to upload and master the 3 minutes on youtube, lets see if someone can beat that then? Smile

Liv ftw

HAHA Doomdy enterd the twilight zone Big Smile

???? we are still waiting 4 u too B1gfoot Big Smile

Good things come to those who wait.

yes very true but I could be dead by that time Big Smile

LOL i could be a Canadian citerzan LOL.

lol ok then u can use my webcam Big Smile

18-Sep-09, 18:28 #134

B1gfoot

Posted 18-Sep-09, 18:28 #134

B1gfoot B1gfoot is currently offline!

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Location: United Kingdom
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 6714

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by Flangel:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

Ye she id right

Its time for U to make one.
Altho I am trying to upload and master the 3 minutes on youtube, lets see if someone can beat that then? Smile

Liv ftw

HAHA Doomdy enterd the twilight zone Big Smile

???? we are still waiting 4 u too B1gfoot Big Smile

Good things come to those who wait.

yes very true but I could be dead by that time Big Smile

LOL i could be a Canadian citerzan LOL.

lol ok then u can use my webcam Big Smile

DEAL.
I want you and Geneyuss as backing dancers :}

18-Sep-09, 18:29 #135

dlkiv

Posted 18-Sep-09, 18:29 #135

dlkiv

Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 58 (F)
Posts: 2558

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by Flangel:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

Ye she id right

Its time for U to make one.
Altho I am trying to upload and master the 3 minutes on youtube, lets see if someone can beat that then? Smile

Liv ftw

HAHA Doomdy enterd the twilight zone Big Smile

???? we are still waiting 4 u too B1gfoot Big Smile

Good things come to those who wait.

yes very true but I could be dead by that time Big Smile

LOL i could be a Canadian citerzan LOL.

lol ok then u can use my webcam Big Smile

DEAL.

ok but u have to where a BIG RED HAT Tongue

18-Sep-09, 18:34 #136

B1gfoot

Posted 18-Sep-09, 18:34 #136

B1gfoot B1gfoot is currently offline!

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Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by Flangel:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

Ye she id right

Its time for U to make one.
Altho I am trying to upload and master the 3 minutes on youtube, lets see if someone can beat that then? Smile

Liv ftw

HAHA Doomdy enterd the twilight zone Big Smile

???? we are still waiting 4 u too B1gfoot Big Smile

Good things come to those who wait.

yes very true but I could be dead by that time Big Smile

LOL i could be a Canadian citerzan LOL.

lol ok then u can use my webcam Big Smile

DEAL.

ok but u have to where a BIG RED HAT Tongue

OK, then lets do it in Wallmart

18-Sep-09, 18:36 #137

dlkiv

Posted 18-Sep-09, 18:36 #137

dlkiv

Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 58 (F)
Posts: 2558

hahaha ya then we could be the people of walmart Big Smile

( i am gonna wear a bag on my head though ) Tongue

18-Sep-09, 18:54 #138

doomdy

Posted 18-Sep-09, 18:54 #138

doomdy doomdy is currently offline!

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Location: Netherlands
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 6197

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by Flangel:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

Ye she id right

Its time for U to make one.
Altho I am trying to upload and master the 3 minutes on youtube, lets see if someone can beat that then? Smile

Liv ftw

HAHA Doomdy enterd the twilight zone Big Smile

???? we are still waiting 4 u too B1gfoot Big Smile

Good things come to those who wait.

yes very true but I could be dead by that time Big Smile

LOL i could be a Canadian citerzan LOL.

lol ok then u can use my webcam Big Smile

DEAL.

ok but u have to where a BIG RED HAT Tongue

OK, then lets do it in Wallmart

Confused

Who wrote wot? Cool

18-Sep-09, 18:59 #139

B1gfoot

Posted 18-Sep-09, 18:59 #139

B1gfoot B1gfoot is currently offline!

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Location: United Kingdom
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 6714

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by Flangel:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

Ye she id right

Its time for U to make one.
Altho I am trying to upload and master the 3 minutes on youtube, lets see if someone can beat that then? Smile

Liv ftw

HAHA Doomdy enterd the twilight zone Big Smile

???? we are still waiting 4 u too B1gfoot Big Smile

Good things come to those who wait.

yes very true but I could be dead by that time Big Smile

LOL i could be a Canadian citerzan LOL.

lol ok then u can use my webcam Big Smile

DEAL.

ok but u have to where a BIG RED HAT Tongue

OK, then lets do it in Wallmart

Confused

Who wrote wot? Cool

Do you thin it will crash if we carry on?

18-Sep-09, 19:00 #140

Flangel

Posted 18-Sep-09, 19:00 #140

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Posts: 1289

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by B1gfoot:

Posted by Flangel:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:

Posted by dlkiv:

Posted by doomdy:
Nice vid Flangel Thumbs Up

Trying to figure out how i can make a vid, i have NO webcam so......
Have phone-vid and normal dig-vid-recorder, does this work and how? Confused

Yes it does, just load on to comp and then upload to utube BTW would love to see urs doom Big Smile

think it would be cool Cool

Well, pretty bussy right now with company ect ect, but promise i trying to do within a couple off weeks, if it works offcourse i am a avi/jpg donk Tongue

no worries doomdy Big Smile

I will REMIND you Tongue

since flangel did one you cant let him "get one over on you" right ?? Tongue

( just playing with u guys). Blink

Ye she id right

Its time for U to make one.
Altho I am trying to upload and master the 3 minutes on youtube, lets see if someone can beat that then? Smile

Liv ftw

HAHA Doomdy enterd the twilight zone Big Smile

???? we are still waiting 4 u too B1gfoot Big Smile

Good things come to those who wait.

yes very true but I could be dead by that time Big Smile

LOL i could be a Canadian citerzan LOL.

lol ok then u can use my webcam Big Smile

DEAL.

ok but u have to where a BIG RED HAT Tongue

OK, then lets do it in Wallmart

Confused

Who wrote wot? Cool

Do you thin it will crash if we carry on?

Maybe
Liv ftw Heart

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