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Minimum # of BB's to force a shove/fold policy?  0   
Hey guys. Just wanted to gather a general consensus of how many BB's everyone thinks would be necessary to warrant folding every hand unless you're going to shove it all in? I've heard 10-20...but do you guys think there should be a definitive amount, or even just determining the amount based on the table dynamics when short stacked..??

     
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You are talking tourney strategy?

Google for ICM (independent chip model). This gives a sound foundation for play with low stacks compared to the blinds.

     
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Yes, I'm talking tourney strategy. Thanks for the tip, I'll check out ICM.

     
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generally you try to have 10x the big and small blinds.to be safe and work from there.try to push hard when you get down to 3 or4 x the blind or no chip power left.every tourney different so play it as it comes. Big Smile

     
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Some strategy I,ve read talk about 13BB to start Push or fold Phase: when u or other opponents have less than 13BB.
If u are first in u or following opponents still in the game < 13BB

     
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Here's M-Zone/M-Ratio, I thought Dan Harrington invented it but I guess it's Paul Magriel. I haven't heard of ICM, I'll check it out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-ratio

here's Vanessa Rousso explaing it:


     
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watched an online-tournament by junglen and he thought to shove at ~10BB if no caller/raiser before

my experience:
if you wait until 3-5BB you get bigstack caller >75%

     
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I just watched the video because I think Venessa is cute..lol

     
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You should definitely calculate your "M", it also takes the smal blind and antes into account; if you play in a qualifier you should also look at your "Q", which is your stack divided by the average stack in the tourney... I believe the whole thing is called "theory of inflection points"..

     
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