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Daniel Cates Admits to Cheating in Online Private High-Stakes Poker Game |
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Bill Perkins, Dan Bilzerian, Daniel Cates, poker cheating, poker fraud.
Posted on 28 May 2020 by "T".
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In case you haven't read it yet, check out this article on Dan Bilzerian accusing Daniel "Jungleman" Cates of ‘ghosting' in a private online high-stakes poker game hosted by Bill Perkins.
On Wednesday, May 27, the main subject of the scandal, poker pro Daniel "Jungleman" Cates finally confessed, and shared his statement of apology on Twitter.
He wrote, "I'd like to address the allegations posed by Dan Bilzerian in this now-deleted tweet."
"I could not do so earlier due to legal advice and financial matters. To be clear, I started playing with Sina (his last name is not Taleb, for the record) on May 8th and ultimately played very few sessions, none of which were against Dan Bilzerian as claimed.
I played very few hands against Bill Perkins, who sat in a game I understood was rampant with professionals who were ghosting. I thought since many on the site were using pros to play for them (which was clear by the uniquely high level of play) at the time it felt acceptable for me to be playing. Unfortunately Bill got caught in the crossfire and I'm very sorry for that.
While I don't think it's fair that I've been singled out for something many were much more guilty of, I accept that as a role model for the poker community my punishment should be disproportionate compared to a normal player. I hold myself to a high standard of ethics and aspire to be devoid of inequity, but I still make mistakes and am sorry for my actions. I will do my best to behave better in the future.
I'd also like to give gratitude to my friends and the people that supported me on the internet and other communications. Your efforts were vital to mitigating this situation and I appreciate your concern for me. Special thanks to Nick Schulman who contacted me to make sure I was ok and started the #Freejungle movement. If anyone else believes in my integrity and that I should not be lambasted over the internet, I would appreciate any support and will appreciate it especially if I know you. To those who attacked my integrity, I forgive you."
This is actually not the first time that Cates has been accused of playing under somebody else's account. In 2011, he was linked to the cheating scandal in which he teamed up with Haseeb "Dogishead" Qureshi to help José "Girah" Macedo win a sponsorship prize from Lock Poker. Cates ‘fessed up to using "Girah's" account in order to win money at a Lock Poker challenge, including winning $43,000 from American pro Tyler Smith, who clearly said he had no interest in playing against Cates.
Source: https://www.gambling911.com/Jungleman-Comes-Clean-Cheating-Scandal.html
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48 comments on "Daniel Cates Admits to Cheating in Online Private High-Stakes Poker Game"
| antonis321 | 12/06/2020 16:35:28 GMT |
Now this was a private game if I am not mistaken , things are even worse here . They have less security standards imo , and this invitational players only , they try to lure whales and STEAL their money , now if one other UNINVITED pro comes to this STEALING THUG PARTY , well , then he's accused of ghosting  He is accused of ghosting by other cheaters players ,who have also CHEATED in the past .This Perkins guy HAS DONE it in the past , with his buddy , that's why he was banned on ACR in the past , for ghosting live on 2017 on twitch , now he pretends he is the virgin mary of poker ??? Do you think we are stupid ?? And this is the biggest scandal , bigeer than Postle-gate ? WTF man ??
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| CALICUL | 12/06/2020 22:23:52 GMT |
| Daniel Cates has serious problems now because he was involved in a few things and I don't know what the outcome will be. Most likely he will be punished for this cheating but let's look at other things what will happen. I wouldn't want to be in ''his shoes'' now.
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| roeish3 | 13/06/2020 06:51:24 GMT |
Cates was ghosting and it's wrong. It's probably not cheating in the harsh sense of using unfair advantages like seeing other players cards or something like this but it was wrong nevertheless.
He apologized, sort of, because he accused other players at the table of being pro players, and I believe that is that.
Don't think anyone will do anything more about it.
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| antonis321 | 13/06/2020 20:08:33 GMT |
| When sb does sth wrong , I don't think he can blame others for the same offense , based on ehical/ethic reasons and unaccepted behavior , it doesn't make any sense . He can say he was the victim of such a behavior , demandask some compensation , but nothing more . He can't play the moral and innocent prson , he canoot accuse the other one a lot , he has done it also in the past . He cannot call for a moral crusade against the other one .He is in the same sh***hole ....
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| CALICUL | 13/06/2020 21:43:06 GMT |
A law, which will be with exclusion for life from live or online poker of all cheating players, will stop this "phenomenon". I agree with that but only a world commission can decide that. It is a necessary thing for the safety of all gamblers.
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| antonis321 | 16/06/2020 13:11:18 GMT |
Exclussion or ban for life is an extremelly hard punishment for a player (or generally ) , you have take all facts into consideration , the prehistory betting behavior , his history as a player and specifically towards other players , where he stands in the poker community , if he got a very big advantage bybdoing what he did , if he hurt a lot other players , etc . This for online and live casions or poker rooms .
I think ban for life should be the last thing to do . I see online poker rooms doing it so easily , without hesitation , asif this shows their determination to deal with scam behavior and cheatrers . Most of the times the extremelly punishing behavior by someone hides the oppossite , his will to pretenf he is a moral and lawful example , when he just punishes the weak , allowing the strong bigger fish and fellow friends or known to him to keep their stealing/destroying the bottom fish party , ongoing .......
In live poker/casions , I think racism or extreme bullyiong behavior willget you banned for life , in online poker rooms , this behavior won't even ban you for 1 week , lol ... 
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| CALICUL | 16/06/2020 16:00:43 GMT |
| Such a law is necessary because fairness would be framed at a super good level. I believe that the number of cheats will decrease very much or totally at the level of professional players. Something good will make this poker be played in ideal conditions.
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| maragatero | 24/06/2020 21:47:48 GMT |
| Too much pure for a card´s game. Ghosting may be an ilegal move in some rules (that I don´t know), but we was seeing the chineese online poker´s room where each player had a lot of avatars in the same game. The rules are good for us and makes improbes to the game, but this act it isn´t a moral question
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| roeish3 | 25/06/2020 05:51:16 GMT |
How do you know someone steal or cheat?
It's impossible to know whether you are paying with a human or with a bot.
I sometimes think it wasn't fair the way I lost money but never complained because foul play is something I can't prove and not even sure that it wasn't just bad luck.
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| elias_vdr | 25/06/2020 07:07:24 GMT |
| The truth leaves much to be desired,for example a player paid 500 thousand dollar for a bot in pokerstars
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| CALICUL | 25/06/2020 13:11:40 GMT |
| It's incredible to hear this ugly thing. I knew there were bots and when i said that here in BRM i received votes with minus, which is not correct. I know you can make some money but bots are a real danger that destroys dreams. Daniel Cates must to pay now.
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| maragatero | 26/06/2020 00:07:15 GMT |
| I{m really frustrated by my poor english and understanding. Why you are talking about bots? The "crime" that he did is ghosting, yes? And ghosting is the situation when you are playing with another avatar/name, to disappear of the professional records, wright?
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| antonis321 | 26/06/2020 13:39:11 GMT |
| Of course if one player has hud info on others and hides his identity from the others , he has a big advantage , now that i thonk of this . But , on the other hand , players to exclide some others , because they don't want to play with them , I don't like it , Get better or stop playing . Also huds to be banned , that would be also very nice in my eyes Anyway , ghosting is sth many or most have done it , one way or another , to help a friend or themselves , intentionally or not , to protect themselves from sharks or to hurt others , without knowing it's forbidden or knowing it's not allowed but doing it nevertheless ....
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| dule-vu | 26/06/2020 14:57:38 GMT |
Posted by maragatero:
I{m really frustrated by my poor english and understanding. Why you are talking about bots? The "crime" that he did is ghosting, yes? And ghosting is the situation when you are playing with another avatar/name, to disappear of the professional records, wright? |
yes maragatero,I am 100 % with you in this!dont understand why somebody talk about bots,when this whole thread is about player who play from some others account and not with some program or something like this!so its not that somebody cheat people with something that isnt allowed,he play from other player account!
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| maragatero | 28/06/2020 01:41:55 GMT |
| Yes, I insist that this news is entering in the "influencer´s world" and is trying to make some discussion of air. We are nearly of the soap operas, whe we will start tto talk about the way that Negrenau, when find to Daniel Cates in the lobby of a tournament, greet him with some contempt....and his jeans were very ugly!
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| CALICUL | 28/06/2020 08:56:07 GMT |
| I didn't play with another account to cheat and yes I'm talking about bots that destroy our chances of making money. This is true and has been demonstrated many times... & here including latest news from BRM. It's a horrible thing.
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| dule-vu | 28/06/2020 17:46:22 GMT |
| every is clear here and I think that there is no law in world that somebody can stop some player to play from some others account!its not like that he use some program or that he cheat with money!ofcourse its not ok,especially if you play for bigger amount,but on other had you also dont know any other player,when all of us use nicknames on table!
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| antonis321 | 28/06/2020 23:49:18 GMT |
| Some poker rooms allow anonymity , so you cannot know who is the player you play against with , this is sth I like very much , if only all poker rooms adopt this idea one day , everything would be solved , cause online poker is not the same with live , by all means . Also all poker apps , for friendly games , home games , invitational games (like this) , annonymity everywhere No need to ghosting then , no need to try to protect yourself or try to cheat the others by using ghosting , less possible or impossible to use otther cheating methods , which exist nowadays .
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| CALICUL | 29/06/2020 09:36:49 GMT |
It is very difficult to protect yourself from these boots. In one day i was playing on a poker room where a British player told me that: he saw the cards what was to appear in the turn and river. I was amazed and very disappointed. It's very hard to protect.
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| dule-vu | 29/06/2020 17:49:22 GMT |
ha,ha,cant believe what people write!even this isnt thread about programs and players that scam people with them,some member write that they are "boots"!didnt know that boots/shoes can scam people or to make something to you!just dont know how can we protect from "them" 
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| antonis321 | 30/06/2020 20:11:13 GMT |
So many steal these days , and noone tries to catch them, eithem because he is one of them or because he's earning money by allowing this cheating to take place or because that's a good way to play with people's money and psychology . Cheating methods need to be abolished from onlione poker , on poker rooms or private poker apps and games . Not focusing on specific kinds of cheating , especially if it's a big name so as to bury him in a sh**hole . Focusing on some , focusing some months or days , everythiong else keeps on being a mess 
Also on live poekr there are matters of cheating , things have to be done , not trying to find the scapegoat , the black sheep to blame for everything ....
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| CALICUL | 01/07/2020 13:43:19 GMT |
| This fight against the bots must be implemented by poker rooms but with a higher level of search and detection. Professional players can also cheat and it is not safe for many gamblers/players or amateurs. I like them to disappear and neutrality sites.
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| dule-vu | 01/07/2020 18:50:50 GMT |
| antonis you can also do this kind of things with some account from other player!you can come to croatia or some other country where you can play at party poker or poker stars and I will give you my passwords and username and you could use it!so nobody will know that somebody else play with my account and this isnt cheating on way when you use some program,but still isnt right!
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| antonis321 | 01/07/2020 22:57:00 GMT |
I haven't cheated in my poker career in the online poker rooms , never did ghosting or whatever . I have never used another account to play , no reason , I suck the same , lol. Also , noone has played , ever , on my accounts on the poker rooms , my results on all of them guarantee this truth But I am not in poker since yesaterday , I have seen some things , read , watched , so as to know that some things are not right , need change drastically . The good will is needed , then everything will change in ONE NIGHT 
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| CALICUL | 03/07/2020 22:38:27 GMT |
| I always tried to play correctly in all the poker rooms where i was active and i did not intend to cheat, so as not to lose in order my account permanently & to have a life ban in that place where i could be caught, if i chose this method. A fair play game is very good.
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