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Posted by RIPStuNov22: I understand that in France, the legal age for gambling happens to be 27.
I don't know who told you that, but I've made four trips to Paris to play poker this year and I can guarantee you that you're wrong. In most countries in Europe the legal age to enter a casino is 18. The only exception I can remember is Belgium (21). In the other countries I've visited casino's (France, Germany, Italy, Spain, UK, The Netherlands and Austria) 18 years is the minimum entrance age.
I have to agree with you about the quality of the players. Of course every nation had bad players and some French players are really good, but in general they're notoriously bad players. I don't know for sure what it is. However, I think pride is a big part of the problem. They're very proud people and in poker it's very important you can lay a hand down when you know you're beat. A lot of times French players are just too proud to admit they're beat and just don't want to give up and therefore make a lot of bad calls.
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French are fine. Many of you blame Elky and Benyamine but at least we got poker pros unlike many of you (UK, germany, portugal, netherlands and so...). Btw french are fine, you just play at low limits, everyone is donk here.
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I dont know whats wrong with the people from france, but most of them make really strange moves. They are gamblers and no players. But thats ok, cause i make the profit with those peoples. So: Thanks to france!!!
ElkY is a great player and it's only for ignorant observer that his play appears reckless, but he knows very well what he is doing, is great on post flop play and reading his opponents. He is capable of great laydowns just as well timed bluffs and good calls that for most people are "marginal" situations they would prefer to avoid.
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I'm English and I live in France and have played online as well as live against them, albeit at not very high stakes but most of them have absolutely no idea.
The French just love gambling... and know nothing about pot odds. The only thing they've got going for them is that they're hard to bluff 'cos the French poker player's motto is "any 2 cards will do".
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If I'm honest I can't stand the french people, only because of my own experiences though, I do try not to generalize if I can.
Online I pay no attention to a players nationality, only their stats. And if you would ever call down/raise someone based on where they're from then you're a mug
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I'm not much for beliving in that "they are like that" and the "others are like that". But for the french... I don't know. I have a few times made calls i normally would not have done, and won, just because the other player was french. Now, I'm not actually saying they are worse players, but maybe looser.
It has at times happened, when I have seen a french player play a normal solid game, I actually take a note of that, instead of the opposit, wich I usually do.
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Posted by JoeJeavons: If I'm honest I can't stand the french people, only because of my own experiences though, I do try not to generalize if I can.
Online I pay no attention to a players nationality, only their stats. And if you would ever call down/raise someone based on where they're from then you're a mug
How do you check peoples stats? Can you do that at any site? How is that (usually) done?
(Yup, I know I am a fish and I ask fish-questions...)
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Posted by Pjot:
Posted by JoeJeavons: If I'm honest I can't stand the french people, only because of my own experiences though, I do try not to generalize if I can.
Online I pay no attention to a players nationality, only their stats. And if you would ever call down/raise someone based on where they're from then you're a mug
How do you check peoples stats? Can you do that at any site? How is that (usually) done?
(Yup, I know I am a fish and I ask fish-questions...)
You need software to do that, I would recommend Holdem Manager but Poker Tracker is good also.
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Posted by JoeJeavons:
Posted by Pjot:
Posted by JoeJeavons: If I'm honest I can't stand the french people, only because of my own experiences though, I do try not to generalize if I can.
Online I pay no attention to a players nationality, only their stats. And if you would ever call down/raise someone based on where they're from then you're a mug
How do you check peoples stats? Can you do that at any site? How is that (usually) done?
(Yup, I know I am a fish and I ask fish-questions...)
You need software to do that, I would recommend Holdem Manager but Poker Tracker is good also.
OK. Thanks for the answer. I will look such things up when I get a little better, and have some use for them.
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poker quality of a nation is related to the number of players, poker bone mass culture in a given country or region. I do not belong to a country make a player play better or worse, but custom and practice dictate that the best players such as directly referred to certain countries.
in a few years when the poker adoption increases even more will surely appear players of all nationalities competing at the highest level, in fact today you can see many Latinos and Asians, a rare occurrence some two decades ago.
