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called a min raise preflop with 6,9 spades ... flop comes 3spades,7spades,8clubs .. I check he bets 60c ..... (2c,4c cash table)........ I considered had flush draw and up and down straight plus roughly twice the chips he had so decided to push all in ...... he calls .. i hit flush on turn and win.
I feel happy with the way i played ........ but was wondering how much would he have to have for this to be the wrong play ..... eg if we both had the same amount should i still make the same play
i wouldnt be good at calculating odds or implied odds just go with my gut feeling on odds .... so where this move felt right i dont know would it feel right if we had the same chips .......
not that i would be worried about loosing that much but feeling that the implied odds wouldnt be right for the push
Some thoughts please
Edited by photolong (07 December 2009 @ 20:33 GMT)
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This is more or less a no brainer. You have a monsterdraw. OESD plus flusdraw = 15 outs with two cards to come. You are a favorite against allmost everything here.
it doesn't matter how much money he has infront of him, as long as you are getting your money in ahead. lets say for example he has AcAd, then you are a 56% favourite to win the hand. if he has 33 then you are a 40% favourite to win. it all comes down to the range of cards you have your opponent on, though at microstakes they play so unpredictably this can be hard to do. for simplicity sake, lets say you think he either has AA or 33 - then you should still call if he goes all in as your are a 51% favourite against his range, and thus this is a profitably move in the long run. if you're pushing all in it depends how short he has, and whether or not he's committed to the pot. if he has the same size stack as you you have fold equity unless of course the villian is a complete tard and can't fold a hand lke A3 or similar. sorry for the waffle, i hope it helps in some way!
edit: just looked at the image - against his actual hand you are a 62% favourite so fist pump it baby!
+ what ^^ said, though you are behind to a higher flush draw.
Edited by bmobregaj (07 December 2009 @ 21:15 GMT)
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flush draw plus a straight draw, there are a lot of outs ofter the flop to hit the nuts. I think this is a pretty good all in situation if the opponent pushes.
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Posted by shokaku: This is more or less a no brainer. You have a monsterdraw. OESD plus flusdraw = 15 outs with two cards to come. You are a favorite against allmost everything here.
He had more than that. If we believe that he has top pair (which in this case he has) u still have another 3 outs with the 9
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good aggresive move, though I disagree completely with the amount raised. You want to raise an amount that a) wins the hand right there, and b) is small enough that you can get out of the hand cheaply if you don't hit and face a lot of pressure. Betting ~$4.50 into a $0.60 pot will only achieve a). Fortunately for you, your opponent was bad enough to call such a bet, and you hit/...
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I think your call pre flop is not good. But after flop You have a lot of outs. I think you have to reraised him, because 17 outs for a monster draw is an easy all in if your opponent pushes.
