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Position:Middle/Late
Game:No Limit Hold'em
Pot Size:5,300
Blinds:100/200
Your Stack:2,000
Your Cards: A Heart J Heart

QUESTION:

The player under the gun raises to 1,000 and the player to his left comes over the top, pushing all 4,000 of his chips into the pot. What should you do?

Call, Fold or Go all in ???

     
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easy fold Smile

     
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Fold.
Be the raiser not the caller..........

     
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After a raise and a push AJ does no longer look good, suited or not. But playing with just 10BB is not optimal either.

     
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of course fold, even with AQs you would think about folding here, unless you play with big donks you are nearly sure that either raiser or caller (or both) have a monster and unless you have at least AK, you can't really go all in in this situation.

     
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this is an very easy fold, as there is a raiser and and all-in reraiser, I bet the 2nd raiser has QQ,KK,AA or AK, no doubt about that

     
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fold.

     
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Can someone explain this to me...

If hes got 4k and you have 2k

WHAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CALL AND GOING ALL IN...

By calling you would be going all in anyway... Its not like you can call without going all in..

Whats even more amazing that so many people have answered or voted, and no one has spotted it before.


Edited by fcumred (27 December 2009 @ 12:33 GMT)


     
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Posted by fcumred:
Can someone explain this to me...

If hes got 4k and you have 2k

WHAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CALL AND GOING ALL IN...

By calling you would be going all in anyway....

Whats even more amazing that so many people have answered or voted, and no one has spotted it before.



Well, maybe cos ur the 1 and only pro at this site? Agree

Relax mate, no need to shout and get upset......

     
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Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Can someone explain this to me...

If hes got 4k and you have 2k

WHAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CALL AND GOING ALL IN...

By calling you would be going all in anyway....

Whats even more amazing that so many people have answered or voted, and no one has spotted it before.



Well, maybe cos ur the 1 and only pro at this site? Agree

Relax mate, no need to shout and get upset......


if no one else spotted it, then clearly that must be the case.

edit : the 10 sercond rule was brought in to stop people just answering blindly, and to actually take the time to read the question and the options.. Obviously that system isnt working....

     
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Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Can someone explain this to me...

If hes got 4k and you have 2k

WHAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CALL AND GOING ALL IN...

By calling you would be going all in anyway....

Whats even more amazing that so many people have answered or voted, and no one has spotted it before.



Well, maybe cos ur the 1 and only pro at this site? Agree

Relax mate, no need to shout and get upset......


if no one else spotted it, then clearly that must be the case.


Yeh must be the case....

Good luck being a pro mate.....

     
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Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Can someone explain this to me...

If hes got 4k and you have 2k

WHAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CALL AND GOING ALL IN...

By calling you would be going all in anyway....

Whats even more amazing that so many people have answered or voted, and no one has spotted it before.



Well, maybe cos ur the 1 and only pro at this site? Agree

Relax mate, no need to shout and get upset......


if no one else spotted it, then clearly that must be the case.


Yeh must be the case....

Good luck being a pro mate.....



So only a pro would spot the sheer stupidity of offering three options when clearly only two exist...


     
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Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Can someone explain this to me...

If hes got 4k and you have 2k

WHAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CALL AND GOING ALL IN...

By calling you would be going all in anyway....

Whats even more amazing that so many people have answered or voted, and no one has spotted it before.



Well, maybe cos ur the 1 and only pro at this site? Agree

Relax mate, no need to shout and get upset......


if no one else spotted it, then clearly that must be the case.


Yeh must be the case....

Good luck being a pro mate.....



So only a pro would spot the sheer stupidity of offering three options when clearly only two exist...



Yeh ur the best.....

     
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Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Can someone explain this to me...

If hes got 4k and you have 2k

WHAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CALL AND GOING ALL IN...

By calling you would be going all in anyway....

Whats even more amazing that so many people have answered or voted, and no one has spotted it before.



Well, maybe cos ur the 1 and only pro at this site? Agree

Relax mate, no need to shout and get upset......


if no one else spotted it, then clearly that must be the case.


Yeh must be the case....

Good luck being a pro mate.....



So only a pro would spot the sheer stupidity of offering three options when clearly only two exist...



Yeh ur the best.....


Well obviously more clued up than you, because you didnt spot it.......

     
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Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Can someone explain this to me...

If hes got 4k and you have 2k

WHAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CALL AND GOING ALL IN...

By calling you would be going all in anyway....

Whats even more amazing that so many people have answered or voted, and no one has spotted it before.



Well, maybe cos ur the 1 and only pro at this site? Agree

Relax mate, no need to shout and get upset......


if no one else spotted it, then clearly that must be the case.


Yeh must be the case....

Good luck being a pro mate.....



So only a pro would spot the sheer stupidity of offering three options when clearly only two exist...



Yeh ur the best.....


Well obviously more clued up than you, because you didnt spot it.......


Well, i did spot it, but didnt feel the need to shout it out like you.
This forum is filled with 90% rookies, 5% wannabees and 5% skilled/semi skilled players.
So everytime i see a writing error, i need to shout it out like you?
Hmmmm sry i am not like that......

     
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Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Can someone explain this to me...

If hes got 4k and you have 2k

WHAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CALL AND GOING ALL IN...

By calling you would be going all in anyway....

Whats even more amazing that so many people have answered or voted, and no one has spotted it before.



Well, maybe cos ur the 1 and only pro at this site? Agree

Relax mate, no need to shout and get upset......


if no one else spotted it, then clearly that must be the case.


Yeh must be the case....

Good luck being a pro mate.....



So only a pro would spot the sheer stupidity of offering three options when clearly only two exist...



Yeh ur the best.....


Well obviously more clued up than you, because you didnt spot it.......


Well, i did spot it, but didnt feel the need to shout it out like you.
This forum is filled with 90% rookies, 5% wannabees and 5% skilled/semi skilled players.
So everytime i see a writing error, i need to shout it out like you?
Hmmmm sry i am not like that......



but you feel the need to complain about stupid polls, and why the admin should have the 10 second rule, so that people should read the post, read the options then answer the question.

This is exactly the kind of stupid poll that the forum can do without. Ones that have no thought or logic behind them, and are simply there to try and earn a few extra points. Then you get loads of people doing exactly what yourself and so many others complain about. They just answer them blindly.. Anyone with half a brain would have spotted the stupid mistake.. A mistake no one with half an ounce of poker sense would miss.

If no one speaks up, then they wont ever stop will they... We'll just get more and more of these polls which offer nothing other than a few extra poiints. 18 people have voted. Voted on a poll thats utterly worthless.. You tell me why that is ?

Or should we just be nice and spare peoples feelings, and tell them what a wondeful poll they have created, just to keep them all jolly happy people..



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Posted by doomdy:



This forum is filled with 90% rookies, 5% wannabees and 5% skilled/semi skilled players.



And let me guess which category you place yourself in here.....

Edited by fcumred (27 December 2009 @ 13:04 GMT)


     
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Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Can someone explain this to me...

If hes got 4k and you have 2k

WHAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CALL AND GOING ALL IN...

By calling you would be going all in anyway....

Whats even more amazing that so many people have answered or voted, and no one has spotted it before.



Well, maybe cos ur the 1 and only pro at this site? Agree

Relax mate, no need to shout and get upset......


if no one else spotted it, then clearly that must be the case.


Yeh must be the case....

Good luck being a pro mate.....



So only a pro would spot the sheer stupidity of offering three options when clearly only two exist...



Yeh ur the best.....


Well obviously more clued up than you, because you didnt spot it.......


Well, i did spot it, but didnt feel the need to shout it out like you.
This forum is filled with 90% rookies, 5% wannabees and 5% skilled/semi skilled players.
So everytime i see a writing error, i need to shout it out like you?
Hmmmm sry i am not like that......



but you feel the need to complain about stupid polls, and why the admin should have the 10 second rule, so that people should read the post, read the options then answer the question.

This is exactly the kind of stupid poll that the forum can do without. Ones that have no thought or logic behind them, and are simply there to try and earn a few extra points. Then you get loads of people doing exactly what yourself and so many others complain about. They just answer them blindly.. Anyone with half a brain would have spotted the stupid mistake.. A mistake no one with half an ounce of poker sense would miss.

If no one speaks up, then they wont ever stop will they... We'll just get more and more of these polls which offer nothing other than a few extra poiints. 18 people have voted. Voted on a poll thats utterly worthless.. You tell me why that is ?

Or should we just be nice and spare peoples feelings, and tell them what a wondeful poll they have created, just to keep them all jolly happy people..



No argue about that Smile
pretty worthless poll yeh true, but again so many rookies here trying to learn the difference between 1)pushing allin, versus b) calling an allin. So many players here think its exactly the same.
So many dont know wots a cbet/2nd barrel/position ect i cud go on forever.

So i was just sayin, you can spot millions off poker writing errors on this forum, no need to shout it out loud, many rookies want to learn and really think AJs is a good hand worth a risk to call an allin.





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Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:

This forum is filled with 90% rookies, 5% wannabees and 5% skilled/semi skilled players.


And let me guess which category you place yourself in here.....



Well, if u want to know i consider myself a rookie trying to be better and be semi soon Agree
I make profit but my standard is pretty high so thats why i am still a rookie Agree

     
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Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by fcumred:
Can someone explain this to me...

If hes got 4k and you have 2k

WHAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CALL AND GOING ALL IN...

By calling you would be going all in anyway....

Whats even more amazing that so many people have answered or voted, and no one has spotted it before.



Well, maybe cos ur the 1 and only pro at this site? Agree

Relax mate, no need to shout and get upset......


if no one else spotted it, then clearly that must be the case.


Yeh must be the case....

Good luck being a pro mate.....



So only a pro would spot the sheer stupidity of offering three options when clearly only two exist...



Yeh ur the best.....


Well obviously more clued up than you, because you didnt spot it.......


Well, i did spot it, but didnt feel the need to shout it out like you.
This forum is filled with 90% rookies, 5% wannabees and 5% skilled/semi skilled players.
So everytime i see a writing error, i need to shout it out like you?
Hmmmm sry i am not like that......



but you feel the need to complain about stupid polls, and why the admin should have the 10 second rule, so that people should read the post, read the options then answer the question.

This is exactly the kind of stupid poll that the forum can do without. Ones that have no thought or logic behind them, and are simply there to try and earn a few extra points. Then you get loads of people doing exactly what yourself and so many others complain about. They just answer them blindly.. Anyone with half a brain would have spotted the stupid mistake.. A mistake no one with half an ounce of poker sense would miss.

If no one speaks up, then they wont ever stop will they... We'll just get more and more of these polls which offer nothing other than a few extra poiints. 18 people have voted. Voted on a poll thats utterly worthless.. You tell me why that is ?

Or should we just be nice and spare peoples feelings, and tell them what a wondeful poll they have created, just to keep them all jolly happy people..



No argue about that Smile
pretty worthless poll yeh true, but again so many rookies here trying to learn the difference between 1)pushing allin, versus b) calling an allin. So many players here think its exactly the same.
So many dont know wots a cbet/2nd barrel/position ect i cud go on forever.

So i was just sayin, you can spot millions off poker writing errors on this forum, no need to shout it out loud, many rookies want to learn and really think AJs is a good hand worth a risk to call an allin.





I am not arguing about your logic. your point is 100% correct. In this situation you want to force the issue not be forced into it.

The argument I have is the OP hasnt thought the options through before creating the poll. Hes given three options when only two are available and now 18 people have gained 10 mob points for voting in a poll thats utterly ridiiculous, thus costing BRM $1.80...

Thats what annoys the living hell out of me. Each stupid poll like this that people reply to costs BRM money. Money that could go to far more worthwhile causes. Like better promotions or better bankroll offers. Things that would really help members who want to learn.




     
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Posted by fcumred:

I am not arguing about your logic. your point is 100% correct. In this situation you want to force the issue not be forced into it.

The argument I have is the OP hasnt thought the options through before creating the poll. Hes given three options when only two are available and now 18 people have gained 10 mob points for voting in a poll thats utterly ridiiculous, thus costing BRM $1.80...

Thats what annoys the living hell out of me. Each stupid poll like this that people reply to costs BRM money. Money that could go to far more worthwhile causes. Like better promotions or better bankroll offers. Things that would really help members who want to learn.


Yeh, you have a good point, polls gettin more retarded every week, costing BRM some money, this money cud be spend on better promotions, totally true.

Edited by doomdy (27 December 2009 @ 13:55 GMT)


     
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I dont see it as stupid, OK yer no need for Call/allin its call or fold.
But its obvious that he is a noob and is woundering what to do with this hand.
For most its an easy fold but some like OP must have Qs about it.
Also theres no Middle/Late position, its either late or mid. Yay now im a PRO.

     
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