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does anyone know the odds of catching AA?The reason I ask is that we might be able to put these rigged whaaa whaaa to rest.Because with the poker tracker you can see how many times you get AA vs how many hands you play and if the odds are about right then the odds on the online table are right. Am I right when I say this? because in 8827 hands I ve been delt AA 44 times thats about 1 every 200 hands that seems about right no?
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That sounds pretty good. We have 52 cards in the deck and 4 aces. The odds of getting the first ace is 4/52 and the second ace is 3/51. We multiply these and we get the odds of getting two aces (4/52)*(3/51) = 1/221 = 0.004525 = 0.45% So it is pretty close.
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I just think its pretty simmilar to get A K as to GET 2 7 its pretty same odd imo .. but in pocket pair i dont rly know since in math you would need some SQR thing to count it
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You cannot calculate odds on which cards youll get explicitly. Same chance youll end up with A-A and 7-2. After you have the first card odds can be calculated, but not before. Unless you know the deck, then you can know exactly what youll get. So, you can categorize by groups not by explicit cards. Pairs, suits, connectors, suited connectors. Thats why are those odds different. Its only mathematic but it is a matter of luck or rigging that youll end up with good or bad hand. I saw a guy who got A-A in consecutive hands, and if thats not enough A-K after that. He was out on 4th hand, though i dont remember what he didnt flop. You can win hand win 7-2 and with A-A if flop hits you, and other way around. Noone can tell what will be the flop except the dealer if he is cheating. When you put a low pair against high pair, those odds are just if neither hand hits the flop. Its 50-50 all the time but variable which values strength of the card is giving that 17% to higher pair.
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Ok, if there are no mathematics, no predictions, no point in having pre-flop odds, I´ll plat against anyone my AA vs 72 about 100 times. Each hand we go all in for $1000.
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You didnt get what we mean .. we didnt mean that 7 2 is better hand as AA ... just the catching AA is the same possibility as to cactch AA ... nothing bad ofc .. lets say first hand its 1:13 that you will get A and 2nd hand its the same , now the 2nd hand whats chance that you will get 7 to first hand ? 1:13 ... you know what i mean ?
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I really didn't understand what you said... But let us think the propability of getting AA vs 27. As I counted before getting AA is 1/221. When we are "trying" to get 27 first card could be 2 or 7, so that will be 8 cards of a 52 card deck. The second card is the otherone of 27 so there are 4 cards to get of a 51 card deck, bacause you have one card already. So the odds of getting 27 is (8/52)*(4/51) = 1/82,875 = 0.012 = 1.2%. So there is almost tripled chance of getting 27 vs AA.
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probably that ... anyway who cares ^_^ ..
offtopic i just played NL25 at mansion poker and won with two pair on table andi had on hand A as kicker wasnt big raises or so and guy had 22 and called it and said : " what happened i had three pair" HAHAHAHA lol ...
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ThefOdz odds before dealing the card are all right dudes, KK AA or is the same odd, but getting 72 or AA is a different odds definitly. And other thing knowing this can help to make some decisions
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This is straightforward example.
Before the first card has been dealt, you have same chance of hitting any card in that deck. Only odds that do exists are those which group cards by pairs, suits, suited connectors, connectors, and all nonsuited and nonconnected cards. You cannot put odds between pairs, because you have same chance hitting any pair. Same is with suits, same chance you hit any of them.
Flop. You cannot say I have better odds to hit flop with my A-A than 7-7 because they have same odds hitting the flop. What you CAN say is if none of us hits the flop I have better odds winning this game.
Example 1: Player 1: As-Ah Player 2: 7s-7h Player 3: Ac-7d Player 4: Ad-7c
flop: Qs-Kh-3d Turn, river: Jc-8h
Player one wins the hand but not because he had better odds. He had strongest hand and if this situation occures he will be the winner.
You cannot put odds on specific pairs but pairs in whole as a group.
REAL WORLD Full Tilt Poker Game #5238240099: Table Antelope Creek - $0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 9:47:57 ET - 2008/02/13 Seat 1: guoshouyi ($2.25) Seat 2: lucasciuc ($5.85) Seat 3: XRiverMePleaseX ($8.20) Seat 4: Dimitri4610 ($1.60) Seat 5: Predobar ($7.25) Seat 6: Rock Vegas69 ($10) Seat 7: GAN241 ($7.60) Seat 8: MGM2000 ($5.15) Seat 9: WPP ($3.45) GAN241 posts the small blind of $0.05 MGM2000 posts the big blind of $0.10 The button is in seat #5 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Predobar [Ah Jc] WPP folds guoshouyi raises to $0.35 lucasciuc folds XRiverMePleaseX calls $0.35 Dimitri4610 folds Predobar calls $0.35 GAN241 adds $2.45 GAN241 folds MGM2000 folds *** FLOP *** [7c Ts Jh] guoshouyi bets $1.20 XRiverMePleaseX has 15 seconds left to act XRiverMePleaseX folds Predobar raises to $2.40 guoshouyi calls $0.70, and is all in Predobar shows [Ah Jc] guoshouyi shows [Kc Ks] Uncalled bet of $0.50 returned to Predobar *** TURN *** [7c Ts Jh] *** RIVER *** [7c Ts Jh Js] Predobar shows a full house, Jacks full of Aces guoshouyi shows two pair, Kings and Jacks Predobar wins the pot ($4.50) with a full house, Jacks full of Aces guoshouyi adds $2 *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $5 | Rake $0.50 Board: [7c Ts Jh Js Ac] Seat 1: guoshouyi showed [Kc Ks] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks Seat 2: lucasciuc didn't bet (folded) Seat 3: XRiverMePleaseX folded on the Flop Seat 4: Dimitri4610 didn't bet (folded) Seat 5: Predobar (button) showed [Ah Jc] and won ($4.50) with a full house, Jacks full of Aces Seat 6: Rock Vegas69 is sitting out Seat 7: GAN241 (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 8: MGM2000 (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 9: WPP didn't bet (folded)
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can you tell what are the odds of gettin 3 aces in a row i once got 3 times aces in 3 dealts a row and it was amazing all the hands i got a double or allmost a double and that happened in monday it was a little tourament but it was nice the hands like that in 5min 3 aces!!!
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before you get dealt any cards you have the same chances of getting dealt an A as you did the hands before. all the other players also have the same chances as you before anything is dealt. So you can't predict how many times you get dealt an A, the chance that you get dealt at least one A is one in 5,7 so you "should" get an A very 6 hands, but it still is random.
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Posted by perryfreya: before you get dealt any cards you have the same chances of getting dealt an A as you did the hands before. all the other players also have the same chances as you before anything is dealt. So you can't predict how many times you get dealt an A, the chance that you get dealt at least one A is one in 5,7 so you "should" get an A very 6 hands, but it still is random.
thats correct and only the feeling make you think that you have more ofen 2 7 then you have A K`s for example
catching A A its totaly same as catching any of other cards 
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