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Hello to all, I have played most games...Poker related over the last 5 years but i never got on with most of them. Razz i enjoyed aswell as HORSE but none really grabbed me, not like NL Hold'em and thats where i have been for the vast magority of my poker playing. Untill now I stumbled on to Omaha Hi and i can tell you its Wicked...lol I dont have any serious stratergy but did manage to win...enough to make a withdrawal But i think this was down to luck and aggression rather than skill and good play, heres how it went:- Deposit $50 got it up to $120 then lost it all Deposited $50 got it upto $95 then lost it all Deposited $20 got it up to $80 then split it between two tables, come off for the evening with $365 then cashed out $300 / 200 pounds. I liked the fact you have 4 cards and sooo many more options to play. I didnt like the Hi / Lo game as it seemed odd to split pots when you had the "Best Hand" anyway i wanted to switch to Omaha Hi but the stratergy has got to be different? I've had a quick look through the stratergy here but any other advice would be great. Thanks in advance.
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Position is even more important than in hold'em. Try to play only hands where all 4 cards work together. Know what is the nuts, and what draws to the nuts at all times.
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So many people overrate AAxx in Micro PLO and it's fairly obvious when someone has it. If you have anything like KQJT > 9875 you're getting it in pre 100%
Top two pair on a flop that doesn't contain and A is generally the nuts in a pot that was 3bet pre. Get it in.
When playing connecting hands, It's always better to have a low gapper than a high gapper, e.g JT97r is a ~2:1 favorite over J987r. With suited cards, try not to draw to flushes with-out A/K high in a multiway pot, HU not so much.
Omaha is all about flopping wraps and FDs and thus is a heavy gambling game. The swings are nasty, so if you tilt easy at Hold'em think twice before commiting to omahahahahaha.
if you enjoyed omaha high wait till you try the omaha high and low , plenty of hands to win with plus the pots are massive plenty of rake back, and action points to gain from this game
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Posted by JeVoOOo: So many people overrate AAxx in Micro PLO and it's fairly obvious when someone has it. If you have anything like KQJT > 9875 you're getting it in pre 100%
Top two pair on a flop that doesn't contain and A is generally the nuts in a pot that was 3bet pre. Get it in.
When playing connecting hands, It's always better to have a low gapper than a high gapper, e.g JT97r is a ~2:1 favorite over J987r. With suited cards, try not to draw to flushes with-out A/K high in a multiway pot, HU not so much.
Omaha is all about flopping wraps and FDs and thus is a heavy gambling game. The swings are nasty, so if you tilt easy at Hold'em think twice before commiting to omahahahahaha.
Cool good advice there . I do tend to tilt but as you say theres no room for that in Omaha, I'll have to get it well under control..lol I like the Heavy Gamble
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Posted by dozn01: if you enjoyed omaha high wait till you try the omaha high and low , plenty of hands to win with plus the pots are massive plenty of rake back, and action points to gain from this game
Dont like Hi Lo... why split the pot? seems very odd to me, i'll stick to Hi thanks. Yes very big pots....I Love It easy to clear bonuses.
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yea im getting into omaha to still not played that much of it but i do like it, a bit parra about going into a cash game but im going to try it the night, these are some good tips. i do agree im not into HI/Low either
even when the pot gets split into two playing high and low , the pots are much greater than omaha high, more players in the pots drawing for there cards so when you have the nut low and high you can at least take 3 players to the cleaners
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Posted by dozn01: even when the pot gets split into two playing high and low , the pots are much greater than omaha high, more players in the pots drawing for there cards so when you have the nut low and high you can at least take 3 players to the cleaners
OK so lots of people are banging on about Hi/Lo so i'm gonna check it out and read some more stratergy then maybe get a few thousand hands under my belt before making any more switch's or i think my poker game will go down.. You know keep switching cant be good can it?
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You got 80$ and you started to play in 2 tables with 40$ buy-in, correct? Way over the bankroll for me, PL does not matter much , its just slower way to allinn. And in Omaha HiLow its common mistake, that 2 or more players are winning low hand and somebody takes high hand. Avoid pots, where you can only struggle for splitting low hand
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Posted by pokkerimees: You got 80$ and you started to play in 2 tables with 40$ buy-in, correct? Way over the bankroll for me, PL does not matter much , its just slower way to allinn. And in Omaha HiLow its common mistake, that 2 or more players are winning low hand and somebody takes high hand. Avoid pots, where you can only struggle for splitting low hand
Yep thats correct i'm not one to stick religiously to bankroll managment...its my downfall.
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its harder game because u never can know that card have opponent so in holdem u more easier can control situation but in omaha its no controled game and u can easy win big or loose big so for me this game is for fishers and donkers
I recommend to play very tight in Omaha. Get a list of starting hands and try playing only the top hands as You start playing Omaha. Double Suited Cards are very powerful. If You have all 4 suits in Your hole cards then You usually should fold. Pocket Pairs are loosiong value in Omaha compared to Holdem, so be carefull with QQ KK on hand.
I also found some really strange advice here: All In with 9 10 J Q against AAxx ??? Pushing as the underdog against the best starting hand? Against weak aces like AA72 completly offsuit You are a 42% underdog. IF the 7 and 2 are suiteed You are done to 39% with910JQ
AAxx is a huge favorite over any other hand and if You can play this hand against only one caller then You will want to get all Your chips in preflop.
Omaha Hi is a hand driven game. You dont want to bet on draws if You dont already have a hand made. Keep in mind that in Omaha there will be straiths and flushes and full-houses so much more often than in Holdem. Any Hand that is Pair/2 Pair in Omaha is not a "strong" hand. If Your opponent is making huge bets, You should at least be able to beat a set in Omaha if You wanna continue the hand.
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Posted by dozn01: if you enjoyed omaha high wait till you try the omaha high and low , plenty of hands to win with plus the pots are massive plenty of rake back, and action points to gain from this game
LMFAO, a guy who makes a thread about people not reading the post through, can't afford a mistake like that! Read it again, mate!
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First off keep in mind that Omaha, especially full ring, is a nut peddling game. You need to be drawing to nut hands every time, and even then, you want to have redraws. Maybe that's why I'll favor big connected double suited hands over AAKK And do keep in mind that the swings will be higher than in HE
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Posted by kraemer: I recommend to play very tight in Omaha. Get a list of starting hands and try playing only the top hands as You start playing Omaha. Double Suited Cards are very powerful. If You have all 4 suits in Your hole cards then You usually should fold. Pocket Pairs are loosiong value in Omaha compared to Holdem, so be carefull with QQ KK on hand.
I also found some really strange advice here: All In with 9 10 J Q against AAxx ??? Pushing as the underdog against the best starting hand? Against weak aces like AA72 completly offsuit You are a 42% underdog. IF the 7 and 2 are suiteed You are done to 39% with910JQ
AAxx is a huge favorite over any other hand and if You can play this hand against only one caller then You will want to get all Your chips in preflop.
Omaha Hi is a hand driven game. You dont want to bet on draws if You dont already have a hand made. Keep in mind that in Omaha there will be straiths and flushes and full-houses so much more often than in Holdem. Any Hand that is Pair/2 Pair in Omaha is not a "strong" hand. If Your opponent is making huge bets, You should at least be able to beat a set in Omaha if You wanna continue the hand.
You seem to know your stuff do you play Omaha oftern? If so where do you think is the best place to gain experiance and where is the best place to play...? Can you recomend any good stratergy books..?
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Posted by paulparadiis:
Posted by dozn01: if you enjoyed omaha high wait till you try the omaha high and low , plenty of hands to win with plus the pots are massive plenty of rake back, and action points to gain from this game
LMFAO, a guy who makes a thread about people not reading the post through, can't afford a mistake like that! Read it again, mate!
Ha... i noticed this earlyer but was too polite to say anything...lol
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If you looking for solid pl8 and plo hi cash then Pokerstars is the right place. Loads of tables and stakes to choose between.
I would suggest Partypoker aswell, but theres minimum stake 25nl for omaha and that - and it is full of gamblers except the few regulars (including me ) who are cleaning up the tables. Why I wouldnt reccommend you to play in party is when you start swinging there at 25nl and you only have few hundreds in account you will be broke within less than a day if you multitable.
So definately go for the Pstars and start eg 10nl - players in there dont think too deep and ull have a great chance to improve!
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Posted by Raggamann:
Posted by xxxbchxxx: I liked the fact you have 4 cards and sooo many more options to play.
for most players this seems to be the biggest problem with omaha. they see potential in every hand.
Oh yes that is very true as i found out last night i was playing far to many hands and kept playing suited cards and getting run over with the Ax's when i had Kx and lower...opps. I have lernt quite a lot over the last few days playing Omaha and the fact i still play to many hands in quite obvious to me. So that said if i can get to grips with the finner point of Omaha it could defo be the choice game for the future. As popular as NL Hold'Em...? One day.
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Posted by xxxbchxxx:
Posted by Raggamann:
Posted by xxxbchxxx: I liked the fact you have 4 cards and sooo many more options to play.
for most players this seems to be the biggest problem with omaha. they see potential in every hand.
Oh yes that is very true as i found out last night i was playing far to many hands and kept playing suited cards and getting run over with the Ax's when i had Kx and lower...opps. I have lernt quite a lot over the last few days playing Omaha and the fact i still play to many hands in quite obvious to me. So that said if i can get to grips with the finner point of Omaha it could defo be the choice game for the future. As popular as NL Hold'Em...? One day.
lol thats not my problem mine is i think im to tight but it saves me getting into trouble. im in a tourny just now and doing ok just now see how it gos hahaha never went well just went out
Edited by Flippedchips (29 March 2010 @ 21:38 GMT)
I stumbled on to Omaha Hi and i can tell you its Wicked...lol 
