I just read the thread/poll of parra99 "What percentage you typically lose your initial hand with AA?"
As of now 80% of reader (including me) voted for I lose 20% of the time"
I would find it very interesting to know if most players have common or similar strategy to play AA? I think players do.
I like to start a poll that could be something like this: (Any1 know if u can create a poll where readers can vote more then once? e.g. a list of statements where reader can agree by voting and disagree by ignoring? This could filter out cash player from tourney players, if its at all relevant. If not then):
What is the concept of ur strategy? I'm looking to pressure raising player with a re raise and win it pre-flop. I'm looking to go heads up for a big pot. I'm looking to get most value on community cards in my favor. Non of the above.
Please give some suggestions to the poll and reply, if u share my interest for a poll like this. thx
Usually your going th either win a small pot or lose big with Aces. Being aggressive with AA is the right thing to do, but having a read on your opponent(s) and being aware of the board texture can help post flop in making the right decision. Preferably you do not want to be in a multiway hand; heads up is preferred.
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Posted by shokaku: I try to get as many chips in as possible before the flop. So it is raise, reraise, all-in if possible. Limping is rarely an option.
yep, i try and pot commit myself pre-flop that way my pot odds are generally good enough to ignore the board texture post flop if someone pushes.
If you limp all small raise or just playing very deep stack then post-flop play comes into it a lot more, here you really need to assess your pot odds before calling an all-in or big bet or whatever, for example if the board is showing obv straight or flush potential, or even 2 kings.. you need to be careful and remember you're allowed to fold AA
Also, the one time I'd be limping pre-flop is from EP on an aggressive table, if I was sure that if I limped I'd be getting a raise from a weak hand that I could then trap/re-raise I'd prob limp. But I'm not going to try and see a flop with a limped AA, that would not be good at all. Also, I'm trying to isolate the field to 1 player.. I've often seen on tables people saying "s**t only 1 caller" or something.. pfft.. how many hands you think you're going to beat if you don't improve? not many thats how many. Try and get all-in vs 1 opponent pre flop is optimal, always.
Always the same question ... always the same answer: depending on your position, your stack, table behaviour, your opponents, tournament/cash, your position if tournament, bubble near?, in the money?, etc ...
Posted by CHBKKK: I just read the thread/poll of parra99 "What percentage you typically lose your initial hand with AA?"
As of now 80% of reader (including me) voted for I lose 20% of the time"
I would find it very interesting to know if most players have common or similar strategy to play AA? I think players do.
I like to start a poll that could be something like this: (Any1 know if u can create a poll where readers can vote more then once? e.g. a list of statements where reader can agree by voting and disagree by ignoring? This could filter out cash player from tourney players, if its at all relevant. If not then):
What is the concept of ur strategy? I'm looking to pressure raising player with a re raise and win it pre-flop. I'm looking to go heads up for a big pot. I'm looking to get most value on community cards in my favor. Non of the above.
Please give some suggestions to the poll and reply, if u share my interest for a poll like this. thx
Thanks for sharing y'all.
Just to get another reply in......
What is the concept of ur strategy? I'm looking to pressure raising player with a re raise and win it pre-flop. I'm looking to go heads up for a big pot. I'm looking to get most value on community cards in my favor. I can commit to two or all of the above. Non of the above.
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Posted by DaMessiah666: Always the same question ... always the same answer: depending on your position, your stack, table behaviour, your opponents, tournament/cash, your position if tournament, bubble near?, in the money?, etc ...
Always the people who don't get the point quite much. Sorry DaMessiah666, but as much as I like to consider more variables I can't do so technically. So we have to be quite simple, hence we talking concept, "I'm looking to..." and in general. If u know all possible reply's and don't see any other relevance, then why u bother? Did it not occur to u that we all have expectations on the information possibly shared here INDIVIDUALLY.
Posted by CHBKKK: Always the people who don't get the point quite much. Sorry DaMessiah666, but as much as I like to consider more variables I can't do so technically. So we have to be quite simple, hence we talking concept, "I'm looking to..." and in general. If u know all possible reply's and don't see any other relevance, then why u bother? Did it not occur to u that we all have expectations on the information possibly shared here INDIVIDUALLY.
Be quite, man. If you want an answer "in general" as you said, you don't really want any answer. Of course I don't know all replies, only tried to make your question more exact in order to try to be useful. But ... in anycase ... i'm going to give you my answer: "Yes, I re-raise". Happy now?
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depending to my positioning at the table,and how many players entered the specific hand in 65% of hands i'll try to attract opponents in an allinned situation!
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Posted by shokaku: I try to get as many chips in as possible before the flop. So it is raise, reraise, all-in if possible. Limping is rarely an option.
With AA i want to finish the hand before flop allin. Never limp with this hand, and never change the size of your bets.
Bye!!
Sorry but I don't agree. Position, table agression level, position in tournament, your stack, ... you cannot answer without knowing all these factors. Imagine you are in the bubble time, you are in BB with AA. UTG all-in and SB call both of them with similar stacks. What do you do?
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Raise preflop most of the time but if you get on a good flop, you can do as you're pretty weak and check call flop or raise as ur were bluffing. You can also check turn, but take care, you must be ready to fold it when you feel you're not winning.
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Posted by shokaku: I try to get as many chips in as possible before the flop. So it is raise, reraise, all-in if possible. Limping is rarely an option.
Agreed! I always try to get one person all-in pre flop, because the flop might freeze the action or worst, have u beat and betting.
Posted by shokaku: Always the same question ... always the same answer: depending on your position, your stack, table behaviour, your opponents, tournament/cash, your position if tournament, bubble near?, in the money?, etc ...
Also agreed! The exact amounts to bet and how to act depend on too many variables.
I believe the main goal should be to get the pot, any extras are welcome if u don't get your aces busted
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depending on your position, your stack, table behaviour, your opponents, tournament/cash, your position if tournament, bubble near?, in the money?, etc ...
But generally try to get as few players against you as you can.
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Posted by Mudadzija: depending on your position, your stack, table behaviour, your opponents, tournament/cash, your position if tournament, bubble near?, in the money?, etc ...
But generally try to get as few players against you as you can.
Yeh, I normally try and get only one caller, if there's a bit of action pre-flop, I'll shove.
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With AA im looking to get as much of my stack in the pot before the flop. As aggressive as i can be with out scareing off the other player. If the pot looks as thou it'll be a multi way pot im a little more reserved and far less aggressive. (multi way pots loose alue with AA / AA looses value in multi way pots). The key thing is put your op on a hand.... If you are raising and being aggressive the=n to call you they will have a hand. even in tourny play this is a good thing to do but you must evalueate this after the flop / turn and river, if it go's that far. If you have the range of the op then thats a lot easyer but if not general AK AQ KK QQ hands are easyest to see depending on the flop......... Any raise re-raise unless the flop is very scary,,, ie 3s cards as some nutters will call big rais's with AXs / KQs and worse. but then its an easyer laydown....some times. Best thing to do is re-eveluate the hand every new card and if it looks like youre beat then give it up... AA isnt every thing.
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Posted by shokaku: I try to get as many chips in as possible before the flop. So it is raise, reraise, all-in if possible. Limping is rarely an option.
i thought you want to get money in by slowplaying...
who slowplay aces will defnitly loose more than 20%!...
