Joined: Mar '10
Location: Croatia
Age: 74 (F)
Posts: 1038
Hi,don't play at Nuts poker,I was deposit money over VISA card besause of BRM gift offer and after i finish and release gift offer I want to withdraw money from my account,I want do that over moneybookers but they told me that I must do that over my VISA which I use to deposit,ok I do request and after one day thay send me e-mail and ask me to send photos of my ID and my bills,I send e-mail with photos and after two days they send me another e-mail and ask me to send photos of my VISA from both sides,that piss me and I send them e-mail in which I asked them why nobody asked for photos when I deposit money(deposit may do anybody with card which is stolen)and when I want to withdraw money on same card I must send them all documents I have,it not smells wright to me.On Full tilt when I was making withdrawal of few houndred $ on same card which i use to deposit,money was on my card for 3 days,but with Nuts Thiefs I exchange e-mails 5 days and I don't want to send photo of my VISA and I think nothing will be of my withdrawal,don't play at Nuts Thiefs because you will be very mad like I am.
Joined: Feb '10
Location: Finland
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 1248
LOL - Schwabo - this is all correct to ask by poker site. It depends on poker site wether they ask you the ID card with first withdraw or when you reach an certain amount of money (for example 3 or 4000$ - atleast thats how it is in pkr). Some sites ask documents, some poker sites dont, but its all correct and safety comes first. I dont play on that site, never heard of it before lol, but I think if you would make a deposit with moneybookers, they will let you withdraw thru moneybookers also .
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Germany
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 1379
Posted by T3ddyKGB: rashly accusation - normal procedure
not normal, but greedy. It has nothing to do with safety. Ship the money to an BRM member who already withdrawd. He might cash out and give you the money... I mean if you can trust a member (but if you are not ready to give them your VISA anyway, than there is no danger at all. Money would be away either ways. So choose what is more worth trying.)
Joined: Oct '08
Location: Germany
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 2025
it is normal. dont know if its really necessary to send them a photo of both sides of your creditcard. but the way you deposit the way your supposed to withdraw...simple. some sites even point on "what we need before you can withdraw" right when you click on cashier button, and if not, its at least written somewhere in the T&Cs. some requre more other less
edit: regarding creditcard and if its necessary because, he already sent them ID and bankstatment...thats for most of the rooms enough.
edit2 : oh and your idea to "ship the money to BRM member" is a very very bad advise.
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Germany
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 1379
i dont think it is normal... or at least its no service. it´s just trying to annoy the people a little so they play a little more. When i buy apples in a shop once i´m not forced to buy apples again and again.
Mostly i deposit money by paysafe cards.... how am i supposed to print my money out again? ô.0
i like the idea. and as far as i know it is not forbidden to ship money... otherwise there would be no possibility to do that (is ther one? Otherwise you need to "loose" your money against a member)
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 6483
Not overly standard, probably just a "delay" procedure though, nothing to fear I dare say. I dunno why you're so worried about sending them photos of your credit card you're GIVING THEM THE NUMBERS anyway mate. Just do what they ask and you'll get your money and dont send them smart-arse emails like "why didnt you do this when i deposited? I could have used a stolen card" this won't help your case one little bit.
Joined: Feb '10
Location: Canada
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 67
Hi If you send both sides of credit card,you can cover up part of the cc numbers,and cover the cvv #,as long as most #`appear with your name and etc. it should be fine. As for I.d. send them your Drivers licence,as long as it shows your name,birthday,address,you can cover up the D.L.# I had no problems with NUTS,when I reached 100 points,BRM sent me 5000 points and I got my cashout with Moneybookers very fast. The pokersite VC,u deposit $25,u received $25 free,if you read it carefully,they want a PASSPORT,thats the only catch,I didint have a passport,so finally they accepted my Driver licence. All I can say is read the fine print,it can be tricky goodluck crusher007
Joined: Oct '08
Location: Germany
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 2025
Posted by Hajinnho: i dont think it is normal... or at least its no service. it's just trying to annoy the people a little so they play a little more. When i buy apples in a shop once i'm not forced to buy apples again and again.
Mostly i deposit money by paysafe cards.... how am i supposed to print my money out again? �
i like the idea. and as far as i know it is not forbidden to ship money... otherwise there would be no possibility to do that (is ther one? Otherwise you need to "loose" your money against a member)
why would they try to annoy ppl? makes no sense...your not able to play with the money you asked to cashout. i thought you mean with "ship the money" to lose to someone on purpose. i dont even think you can do that on a legal way if you "never" cashed out before...thats why: bad advise.
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Lithuania
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 2805
yes nuts poker just try to invoilve more players and have hige mistakes in they system now if u deposit won some and want to withdraw they just stop u from that and try to do all that money not be withdraw its so terrible and so pure
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Germany
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 1379
Posted by mazas: yes nuts poker just try to invoilve more players and have hige mistakes in they system now if u deposit won some and want to withdraw they just stop u from that and try to do all that money not be withdraw its so terrible and so pure
good luck all
thats the point i see. and thats quite normal obv.
That is why I have always recommend people to not make direct deposit to the poker rooms by using credit cards because at the end they will ask you to scan the card and send it to them for verification (a process a lot of players don't like to do as it's a waste of time plus some people fear to do it as they are not 100% sure it's safe to do it)
Joined: May '10
Location: Germany
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 61
Just got my money from Nuts Poker. I deposited my first 40 via BankTransfer. After reaching the 100Point playing maybe 5 hours on .05/.10 tables i was up nearly 17bucks. Aftreward i took a shot on a nl100 table and doubled up. So now i am up 51$ on Nuts. I want to withdraw my whole roll via Moneybookers, but as i didnt deposited it that way before i just sent another 10$ to my Nuts account with MB. So now i was able to get my money via MB back. Had also to send them my ID(did it yesterday). Right now i get my money in my MB account, so dont flame the forum "Nuts are thiefs" or whatever, just send them your ID and u will get the money as soon as possible.
Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 6714
Im not quite sure why they would need to see the card, the No. are its ID, and should clearly show its related to whom ever the owner is, thats why we can do transactions over the phone, or by simply using the cards ID No. What if I wanted to make a deposit to a friend via a card, would he then never be able to cash out as Account details would not match the card details. Ahh wll, lesson learned here dont use CCs. What will it prove? The rest is commen practice
Joined: Apr '08
Location: Argentina
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 748
It kind of the "normal" way of doing things...i really don;t know if it adds more security, I rather think it is a sense of false security (what do they gain by seeing my plastic card? Or how do they know I don't send them a photo of some hobo ?
Joined: Apr '10
Location: Finland
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 323
I´m not sure if that is a "normal" way of doing that... Because when I´m cashing ouot they don´t ask anything after I have send my ID´s and copy of my elecrisity bil and so on... maybe after couple of years they are asking DNA samples and such kinda things
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: oh and your idea to "ship the money to BRM member" is a very very bad advise.
