Joined: Jun '09
Location: France
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 670
SITTING OUT ON THE PokerStars.FR Sunday, July 4 18h -> 21h
Following SCANDAL suffered by the French online poker these days,
WE organize a DIGITAL EVENT from the worldwide leader, PokerStars.
Indeed, the fees charged, and changes to the structure of tournaments are SCANDALOUS, everything is the responsibility of the players, worse,
PokerStars has even taken an extra margin in the process!
We are asking YOU, to join our event, while sitting at table, and REFUSING the blinds, Sunday, July 4 from 18h to 21h (It is explained below how to proceed).
------------ That I was sent this excerpt is a good example of the challenge that goes against the new law on online poker French. Because it really seems impossible at present played poker profitable. The fee of 2% + higher raked by room and even the application of the tax pre-flop even if everyone folds! and many other things!
Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 6714
Good on you, stand up to them, its a stupid law. How are you finding it (except for the fees), is it true they have also set limits on tourn entrys and limits you can play?
Joined: Feb '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 100
These new laws really suck for all you French players, but it's going to get worse. Far, far worse.
Having installed himself as the new manager of the France football team, Monsieur Sarkozy - or as we call him here "The Hungarian Midget" - will now summon any French poker player, who fails to quailfy for a final table, to his office for a "debriefing".
In addition any poker player going on strike (i.e. refusing to pay the blinds) or telling the dealer to "Go f**k yourself, you son of a whore" will be ejected immediately and never be allowed to play again.
However, in support of your "cause" I now wont be opening a Pokerstars account until July 5th so that I will also be able to "refuse" the blinds on the 4th - in pointlessly symbolic yet virtual fashion.
p.s. This is what happens when you refuse to eat British beef.
Joined: Feb '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 1886
I still don't understand what this change to the french law means, how it's enforced. But seen as I just moved back to the UK from france sounds like I made a lucky escape.
Good to hear that you're making a stand though. At least that's what I think you're doing. Good luck with it.
Joined: Feb '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 100
Get serious.
You should be grateful they've created a room just for French players. It's cost them money to do this and they also have to pay a percentage of the profits to the French Government so a 2% increase in rake is hardly surprising. The simplest option for Pokerstars would be to ban French players completely - which is what many sites will probably do.
It's your government you need to protest at. They created the laws. Pokerstars obviously don't want to lose customers as this hits their profits but they are just doing what they can to accomodate you and keep their customers. You can't expect them to keep the rake the same and pay a large amount ot their profits from Pokerstars.fr to the French government.
Joined: May '09
Location: Croatia
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 20506
if is this beacuse of french government,then poker stars isnt guilty(I trhink)!its like USA have politic about they citizens,so you should blame your politicians!
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 6483
Posted by BoyElectric: Get serious.
You should be grateful they've created a room just for French players. It's cost them money to do this and they also have to pay a percentage of the profits to the French Government so a 2% increase in rake is hardly surprising. The simplest option for Pokerstars would be to ban French players completely - which is what many sites will probably do.
It's your government you need to protest at. They created the laws. Pokerstars obviously don't want to lose customers as this hits their profits but they are just doing what they can to accomodate you and keep their customers. You can't expect them to keep the rake the same and pay a large amount ot their profits from Pokerstars.fr to the French government.
Joined: Dec '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 42 (M)
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i agree i mean ur making a problem for pokerstars when most other sites prob wont let u play lol. I may be wrong but do u not pay more rake than that other other sites? lol and really do u realy think this is going to work and if everyone did this they would prob just close this french part down
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Lithuania
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 2805
there some law stupids all over the world now and new countrys also do the same its mean they want to kill online poker ? or just they want more money from this companys ? sick rules never stop us from playing online poker we all find new ways top lay and will play all life
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Lithuania
Age: 33 (F)
Posts: 1180
Posted by B1gfoot: Good on you, stand up to them, its a stupid law. How are you finding it (except for the fees), is it true they have also set limits on tourn entrys and limits you can play?
Joined: Aug '09
Location: Switzerland
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 28
Stupid French government. After Hadopi who was voted by ministers who don't know what the law is, we have this law. The guys who have voted this don't know what poker is. They voted to protect the French players against addiction. And for fighting against this addiction, they make ads on TV ... There's a problem , no ? This government sucks
I don't get it why are you taking actions against pokerstars.fr??? they can't change anything and if they change their structure or whatever I'm really sure that they will lose their french license.
Joined: Aug '09
Location: Switzerland
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 28
Posted by HsH80: I don't get it why are you taking actions against pokerstars.fr??? they can't change anything and if they change their structure or whatever I'm really sure that they will lose their french license.
Huh imo they can change something, look at bwin.fr, the rake is not like ps.fr. So they can do sth. And if ps.fr change something, the others sites will change ...
Posted by HsH80: I don't get it why are you taking actions against pokerstars.fr??? they can't change anything and if they change their structure or whatever I'm really sure that they will lose their french license.
Huh imo they can change something, look at bwin.fr, the rake is not like ps.fr. So they can do sth. And if ps.fr change something, the others sites will change ...
Ok then i was wrong just thought that everybody has to follow the same rules...because here in germany are some legal online casinos which were restricted to some.......restrictions(lol) and they can't change anything
Joined: Jun '09
Location: France
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 670
Hello everybody! The reason why Pokerstars is targeted is threefold. 1) The other rooms will tend to align with the leader! 2) For the moment it's the room that took most rake, especially on some sng rake. Much more than the internationale site. 3) One of the President of the French section of pokerstar is a Balkani. This is the son of a political allies of Mr Sarkozy. See you soon for new posts lol!
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 6483
Posted by DAGOR: Hello everybody! The reason why Pokerstars is targeted is threefold. 1) The other rooms will tend to align with the leader! 2) For the moment it's the room that took most rake, especially on some sng rake. Much more than the internationale site. 3) One of the President of the French section of pokerstar is a Balkani. This is the son of a political allies of Mr Sarkozy. See you soon for new posts lol!
ok - but i still think the french government should be baring the brunt of any action. Be careful what you wish for in regards to PS.
Posted by DAGOR: Hello everybody! The reason why Pokerstars is targeted is threefold. 1) The other rooms will tend to align with the leader! 2) For the moment it's the room that took most rake, especially on some sng rake. Much more than the internationale site. 3) One of the President of the French section of pokerstar is a Balkani. This is the son of a political allies of Mr Sarkozy. See you soon for new posts lol!
Good Luck I personally think that the only good thing is that online poker is now legalized in france...hope that was one of the first steps to legalize online poker within the EU and in a few years everybody can play against each other at an Poker-Room with an EU-License
Joined: Aug '09
Location: Switzerland
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Posted by HsH80:
Posted by DAGOR: Hello everybody! The reason why Pokerstars is targeted is threefold. 1) The other rooms will tend to align with the leader! 2) For the moment it's the room that took most rake, especially on some sng rake. Much more than the internationale site. 3) One of the President of the French section of pokerstar is a Balkani. This is the son of a political allies of Mr Sarkozy. See you soon for new posts lol!
Good Luck I personally think that the only good thing is that online poker is now legalized in france...hope that was one of the first steps to legalize online poker within the EU and in a few years everybody can play against each other at an Poker-Room with an EU-License
Noooooooooooo, imagine if they make that, EU player just against EU players, no more us players ...
