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Posted by IslandJack:
Posted by jessthehuman: any chess sites for money??
Actually, there probably wouldn't be, its too easy to cheat in chess.
Really? Call me a big donk, but how do you cheat in Chess? Don't know about online, but live Chess is impossible to cheat at....as far as I know...
I figured it out ages ago whilst playing against somebody online once who was too good for the speed he played.
It's actually really easy, you install the best chess software you can get and start a game against the computer and set it to its hardest difficulty. Then you feed your opponents moves into the game and just replicate whatever the computer does as your move
There's few people who can beat the elite chess software set at hardest difficulty.
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Posted by jessthehuman:
I figured it out ages ago whilst playing against somebody online once who was too good for the speed he played.
It's actually really easy, you install the best chess software you can get and start a game against the computer and set it to its hardest difficulty. Then you feed your opponents moves into the game and just replicate whatever the computer does as your move
There's few people who can beat the elite chess software set at hardest difficulty.
You're right except that you could use computer software to enhance your performance at any skill/logic game. Connect 4, checkers, scrabble, poker... If you're able to bet money on it, chances are the owners have figured out some sort of way to minimize cheating. They only have to have a clause in the conditions that they can ban you any time if they suspect you of cheating. Then just as with poker they can investigate. If you make your moves too quickly or play like a robot surely they can tell. Anyone with a suspiciously high win ratio would be checked. They run your moves through a computer and if you never make a mistake your obviously cheating. There is likely to be a lot more measures in place when there's money involved. And there's always risks playing anything online. Someone will always be trying to cheat but not everyone can. You have to assume you'll beat enough fair players to balance out the cheats.
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Posted by awood88:
Posted by jessthehuman:
I figured it out ages ago whilst playing against somebody online once who was too good for the speed he played.
It's actually really easy, you install the best chess software you can get and start a game against the computer and set it to its hardest difficulty. Then you feed your opponents moves into the game and just replicate whatever the computer does as your move
There's few people who can beat the elite chess software set at hardest difficulty.
You're right except that you could use computer software to enhance your performance at any skill/logic game. Connect 4, checkers, scrabble, poker... If you're able to bet money on it, chances are the owners have figured out some sort of way to minimize cheating. They only have to have a clause in the conditions that they can ban you any time if they suspect you of cheating. Then just as with poker they can investigate. If you make your moves too quickly or play like a robot surely they can tell. Anyone with a suspiciously high win ratio would be checked. They run your moves through a computer and if you never make a mistake your obviously cheating. There is likely to be a lot more measures in place when there's money involved. And there's always risks playing anything online. Someone will always be trying to cheat but not everyone can. You have to assume you'll beat enough fair players to balance out the cheats.
I think it'd be pretty hard to catch somebody doing this. Especially as you could set to the second hardest skill level, so a few mistakes are thrown in. You could still take as long as you wanted before making each move. The chess software would obv be running on another computer/laptop.
I think it's a little different to poker bots, similar in concept. But a perfect poker game is also about getting good reads. It's not just about calculating perfect pot odds as a bot may do. I poker pot could probably maintain a decent win rate at micro stakes, as no fancy play required. As the stakes went up I think robotic play would no longer cut it.
With other skill/logic games, the perfect computer moves are a lot more 'correct' so to speak.
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by IslandJack:
Posted by jessthehuman: any chess sites for money??
Actually, there probably wouldn't be, its too easy to cheat in chess.
Really? Call me a big donk, but how do you cheat in Chess? Don't know about online, but live Chess is impossible to cheat at....as far as I know...
I figured it out ages ago whilst playing against somebody online once who was too good for the speed he played.
It's actually really easy, you install the best chess software you can get and start a game against the computer and set it to its hardest difficulty. Then you feed your opponents moves into the game and just replicate whatever the computer does as your move
There's few people who can beat the elite chess software set at hardest difficulty.
Nice! Hadn´t thought of that. Only played Chess online maybe 2-3 times, but your tactic seems sound, if there were money involved. Very interesting! I´ll never do it, because I would want to prove myself in Chess, but still interesting.
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Posted by IslandJack:
Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by IslandJack:
Posted by jessthehuman: any chess sites for money??
Actually, there probably wouldn't be, its too easy to cheat in chess.
Really? Call me a big donk, but how do you cheat in Chess? Don't know about online, but live Chess is impossible to cheat at....as far as I know...
I figured it out ages ago whilst playing against somebody online once who was too good for the speed he played.
It's actually really easy, you install the best chess software you can get and start a game against the computer and set it to its hardest difficulty. Then you feed your opponents moves into the game and just replicate whatever the computer does as your move
There's few people who can beat the elite chess software set at hardest difficulty.
Nice! Hadn't thought of that. Only played Chess online maybe 2-3 times, but your tactic seems sound, if there were money involved. Very interesting! I'll never do it, because I would want to prove myself in Chess, but still interesting.
I've never played for money and I've never used this tactic. IMO, if you aren't playing for money, you'd have to be mentally unstable to do this. Like, what on earth would be the point, what a waste of time.
But I used to play online for fun now and again and I realized how prevalent it was for people to cheat just in fun-based chess communities. So many people on this planet are so pathetic.
