Can playing against bad players make you a better player?
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Joined: May '10
Location: Serbia
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I played on fulltilt and pokerstars and everest and kept burning my bankroll rapidly. Then I found a site ( don't ask which one because I'm not going to tell you ) and there are LOADS of fish and plain stupid calls. My bluffs pass elegantly and my nuts are paid. So my question is: if we ignore the money I earned (30 $ in four days playing 2cents/4cents), is there a way for me to learn anything there? When I'm done playing on that site and go to some other one, will I be any better then before? Basically, is playing there going to make me a better player?
Joined: Feb '10
Location: Denmark
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I play at everest. soe many bad palyers there .... VirtusPr0 search sharscope, just started the other day, deposit 10$ just for fun. Easy to win these DONS there. only played25 $1.10 dons. lol. Ehm nice win btw 30 $ ! just dont tilt it away or play high limits. ;=) I think it will make you a better player. I guess its partypoker your playing at.
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Posted by Mudadzija: Basically, is playing there going to make me a better player?
First decide what is your objective - to win money or to become better player. playing with bad players will def spoil your game e.g. if ur bluffs are passing here, u'll start bluffing more than u should. and you'll unintentionally pickup bad things from them.
and when you start playing with better players you might struggle for some time as your usual tricks might not work with them.
it depends on how much experience you have in playing poker, whether you will become better or not. winning 30 $ in 4 days doesnt make u a winning player there in long term it can be variance too.
and remember there is no getting better without losing money but if you are winning money there and play poker to win monwy why shift to somewhere else
my advice - keep playing at both places - bad players will earn u money and and good ones will improve your game. and adjust your bankroll accordingly so that you dont lose much.
Joined: Oct '09
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Posted by Mudadzija:
So my question is: if we ignore the money I earned (30 $ in four days playing 2cents/4cents), is there a way for me to learn anything there? When I'm done playing on that site and go to some other one, will I be any better then before? Basically, is playing there going to make me a better player?
No, you cant learn from losers, so you wont be better player.
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Bad players can provide you an example of what you have not to do when playing and show you the results of bad play so in a certain way they can teach you something
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when u play a lot of games and read or show videos u can improve u skill but it´s a hard work.The best way to become a better player are live games with friends u can talk about the hands and whats the best way to playing a hand.I´ve played with 2 of my friends(both good players) a long time many hours on weekend and there was many hard fights we had know the playing style from the others so we must change often the sytle of playing to win money.I think thats was for me a great step to become a better player
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Posted by Mudadzija: I played on fulltilt and pokerstars and everest and kept burning my bankroll rapidly. Then I found a site ( don't ask which one because I'm not going to tell you ) and there are LOADS of fish and plain stupid calls. My bluffs pass elegantly and my nuts are paid. So my question is: if we ignore the money I earned (30 $ in four days playing 2cents/4cents), is there a way for me to learn anything there? When I'm done playing on that site and go to some other one, will I be any better then before? Basically, is playing there going to make me a better player?
its definitely not gonna make u a better player.. but it would be very intersting
Joined: May '10
Location: Romania
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It doesn't help your game to play with those kind of players, but it helps your roll and it's good you know this...so try to improve your game watching movies/playing elsewhere while your grinding there..
I think u an improve yourself, cause u build your bankroll, and you can learn how u can play agaist fish, and with a good bankroll you can play against who can play better, but u have enaough ankroll while u can learn to ay against better player.
Joined: May '10
Location: Serbia
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I don't think it's variance. I have been winning too long. So it must be the fishiness of the players. As for Everest, I sincerely started doubting them when my twentieth pocket AA got folded away. I don't say they have something to do with that, but there may be some sort of collusion going on.
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
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I dont know if you are right. But what i can say is that rooms like full tilt and pokerstars will rob you as you want. If you play heads-up for example you can make the game of your life but if they want you to lose you will lose. I lost all my trust in these rooms.
Joined: Feb '09
Location: Brazil
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The right way is Study and learn... dont keep your wait for lucky... lucky dont make good players or great bankroll.. just win one or two hands... and this is not what players nee...
) and there are LOADS of fish and plain stupid calls.
and it's good you know this...so try to improve your game watching movies/playing elsewhere while your grinding there..
