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  8-Oct-10, 14:48   #1
Micronesia +1 
Mudadzija 

Joined: May '10
Location: Serbia
Age: 41 (M)
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The question for all those who went through the hell of the micro stakes and lived to testify about it.
How did you cope with all those preflop raises and turn allins? I mean, it feels like lotto or bingo. I know the simplest solution is to wait for the premium hands and profit, but I find it so difficult. And could anyone tell me if it is any better on higher stakes. I think post flop play is much more diverse there.
And what is your overall experience with micro stakes, how did you learn to grind it?

     
  8-Oct-10, 15:00   #2
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HsH80 
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Germany
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 129
Interesting question want to know it too...
had played some of them because bankroll protection was activated on an cake poker skin...and really hated it...these micro stakes players were not just bad as hell no they were offending me whenever they lost i really wanted to break them their fingers and their necks lol!!!

     
  8-Oct-10, 15:08   #3
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supertjc 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: United States
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 62
Most play the game for fun, some grind the game for profit, some play the game for the thrill of playing crap hands that have a slim chance in hell of winning. There will always be someone willing to gamble with terrible odds no matter the stakes. So stick with a plan that works for you and hope for the best. To much time played at the micro's is not very healthy either, it tightens you up and never really allows you to adjust your game to solid "Raising players", instead your always in a coin toss for $2 with a pushin fool.

GLE1... Thumbs Up

     
  8-Oct-10, 15:20   #4
 
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  8-Oct-10, 15:24   #5
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B1gfoot 

Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 6714
Micro is fun :}
To beat it is easy, ABC. Nothing more or less, no need to be a hero.
Im at low stakes, play a fair bit on NL100 now, the diffrence, they play poker.
Decissions are much harder, more of a pre flop game, without a HUD your a duck.
"How did you cope with all those preflop raises and turn allin"
raise more or fold.
If you cant beat micro you will sink fast at higher stakes.

     
  8-Oct-10, 18:35   #6
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schmoyster 
Joined: Jul '09
Location: Russian Federation
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 772
Playing on PS didn't see any improvement of skill from opposition until NL50 (or 20 +2 buy-in tourneys). NL2, NL5, NL10,NL25 is all the same. But that is on PS, you know...

     
  8-Oct-10, 20:02   #7
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IslandJack 

Joined: Oct '09
Location: Belgium
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 2851
Posted by Mudadzija:
The question for all those who went through the hell of the micro stakes and lived to testify about it.
How did you cope with all those preflop raises and turn allins? I mean, it feels like lotto or bingo. I know the simplest solution is to wait for the premium hands and profit, but I find it so difficult. And could anyone tell me if it is any better on higher stakes. I think post flop play is much more diverse there.
And what is your overall experience with micro stakes, how did you learn to grind it?


I think you said it yourself.
Wait for the premium hands and only play through hard when you hit the flop.
The most difficult part about it is having the patience to keep folding. It´s not THAT easy, and it can get pretty boring.
But I know of no other way.
They bluff all the time, but you never know when. And with so many people in the Pot, somebody is bound to hit something.
Like B1gfoot says, raise or fold....you just need to be careful when to raise, and watch out for any kind of trips or straights.
The raising will get rid of some of the ones trying to hit straights, but an A will never fold...EVER.
Neither will someone 1 card away from a straight. They´ll go all-in in the Micros.

Playing a patient game will also help you play higher limits, I believe. Correct me if I´m wrong B1gfoot. And then the game becomes really fun, but dangerous in a intelligent sort of way.

Good luck!

     
  9-Oct-10, 00:14   #8
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K1dPoker 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: United States
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 83
You definately have to be very patient in the micro-stakes due to the 100M donks trying to be professionals like ivey and durrr raising on garbage and taking down a pot lol. Aww crap!

     
  9-Oct-10, 00:31   #9
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parrix 

Joined: Aug '09
Location: Spain
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 574
Posted by K1dPoker:
You definately have to be very patient in the micro-stakes due to the 100M donks trying to be professionals like ivey and durrr raising on garbage and taking down a pot lol. Aww crap!

Sure of the micro stakes Cool

     
  9-Oct-10, 04:24   #10
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burzum 
Joined: Mar '10
Location: Ukraine
Age: 42 (M)
Posts: 11
where do u play, Mudadzija?
i play NL2 at full tilt poker. it is definitely not like a bingo

     
  9-Oct-10, 04:56   #11
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Calmplay 

Joined: Apr '08
Location: Mauritius
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 4098
Posted by burzum:
where do u play, Mudadzija?
i play NL2 at full tilt poker. it is definitely not like a bingo


Yes I also agree that at NL2 at FTP is not really like a bingo, at least not very often like it... there are much more serious and solid players than the bingo ones there... so if you guys want to grind at micro... just go there... gl

     
  9-Oct-10, 06:45   #12
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doomdy 

Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 6197
Posted by B1gfoot:
Micro is fun :}
To beat it is easy, ABC. Nothing more or less, no need to be a hero.
Im at low stakes, play a fair bit on NL100 now, the diffrence, they play poker.
Decissions are much harder, more of a pre flop game, without a HUD your a duck.
"How did you cope with all those preflop raises and turn allin"
raise more or fold.
If you cant beat micro you will sink fast at higher stakes.


Spot on +1

Just only play ABC TAG poker and for sure u make money in the long run.

     
  9-Oct-10, 20:42   #13
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Mudadzija 

Joined: May '10
Location: Serbia
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 128
I played PartyPoker and 365. Wasted a lot of money, some 200 dollars, fortunately those were no deposit bankrolls. Now I think I have got it, play only good pocket cards, fold if you don't hit (or rarely bluff if flop structure enables you to), and when you raise, raise like a man.
I have quite a successful streak running for a month or so, started with only 10 dollars, now I' m heading for 100.
I have never tried real money on FTP. Actually it was my first room, but I only played freerolls. Didn't even know how the game works. I might try it now.

     
  9-Oct-10, 22:03   #14
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astra4 
Joined: Jun '08
Location: Sweden
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 138
i have tried micro tables on pokerstars and i find it okey, not so many donks there. i usually play at 0,25/0,5 and 0,5/1 and when i got only a few bucks left i go downto micro tables and play like a donk.
Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  10-Oct-10, 03:47   #15
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parrix 

Joined: Aug '09
Location: Spain
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 574
Posted by schmoyster:
Playing on PS didn't see any improvement of skill from opposition until NL50 (or 20 +2 buy-in tourneys). NL2, NL5, NL10,NL25 is all the same. But that is on PS, you know...

good question Cool

     
  10-Oct-10, 06:03   #16
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psycokiller 
Joined: Sep '09
Location: Canada
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 776
I find microstakes @ FTP to be very competitive. Just can't seem to grind my way up there. Recently switced to an ipoker site (William Hill) and find the competition there to be extremely soft and profitable. I'm currently running at +17.44BB/100 playing NL2,NL4 and NL10 6max tables at Williams while @ FTP it's around -2BB/100.

     
  10-Oct-10, 09:04   #17
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 6679
Posted by psycokiller:
I'm currently running at +17.44BB/100 playing NL2,NL4 and NL10 6max tables at Williams while @ FTP it's around -2BB/100.

I never understand why people play at tough sites like Full Tilt and Stars, when they have the option to play at Ipoker or Ongame.

     
  10-Oct-10, 11:53   #18
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AbuDhabi 
Joined: Aug '10
Location: Czech Republic
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 309
maybe they would like to play poker and poker play is just fun for them. They dont to profit as much they can, but they want to improve their game through tougher competition Smile

     
  10-Oct-10, 12:01   #19
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mazas 
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Lithuania
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 2805
micro game s is more for fun not reall play becouse u ll grow your money very low and its took to get 100 $ very long way but alo t off players prefer that and its they only way to get bankroll higher
good luck all

     
  11-Oct-10, 20:02   #20
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SuperNoob 

Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 4873
bad players are everywhere at all stakes but surely micros have most of them. sometimes when its their lucky day they can be real troublesome but if u r a gud player u'll win in long term Blink

     
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