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Hi just want to hear if anyone has heard of Algorythm software's? You should attach to your poker software and after playing 30-45 min with the calculator attached it would know which algoryth the poker site uses. And in that way be able to tell pre flop if u got a winning or non winning hand.
Its getting scary with the variety of cheat softwares I know there is alot of story's after the super user at absolute and people are all winned up. Funny enough after the Absolute super user the scammers has put loads of cheating stuff, i've seen on youtube and just on net loads of scammers that claim they can teach you how to control your hold cards and how to see opponent cards and im 100% sure nothing works(but havent tried and never will). Thats actually the funny part, the Scammers that sell cheating softwares that doesnt work are cheating people that wanted to cheat others. So they probably comfort them selves by saying i cheated a cheater. And who will the customer complain to when they dont get the expected.
Sorry 4 the story, but i've heard many crazy things but the 1 with algorythms spooked me
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1 thing is for sure, those RNG softwares used by online sites are as random as it gets and actually has to be approved before being used so technically, you can't teach a software to "guess" random numbers.
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Lots of the scams like "See your opponents cards etc." are usually sold for maybe like $20-$100 a piece.
Think about if, if YOU had the opportunity to know your opponents hand (or know the flop, preflop) in any given game. Would you then go out on the internet and sell it to everybody else and make sure that your thing (or whatever it is) gets caught and stopped? When you instead can make as much money you want, by cheating others playing poker.
Nah, the good ol' saying really comes true in a case like this: "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is...".
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Yeah you are probably right Admin, actually wrote with a guy on youtube who claimed he could teach people to control their hold cards. Check him out on youtube he's hilarious(onlinepokerdevil). In his video he shows that he can pick his cards and after he had KK 3 times he got AA three times and then he says lets try to get AA suited LOL. He gets AA both clubs and went all in. I wrote in the text below his video, lucky your opponent didnt call you would have been busted in cheating(not that i believe he could) and two days after the Video was edited so now there no suited aces in the video. But i think even the trackers are cheating and they work 4 sure.
Im2good4U maybe you dont know what an algorythm is. Its the formula for randomness there are limits to how random things get on a computer.Even with the advanced random generators. If you knew which formula the random generator uses u can for sure get the computer to gues a random number.
I heard of such software, it might work but u must enter 1000 hands or something like that ( TILL THE RIVER),. Maybe then u could go NEAR the algrortihmus of the cards... bu that would need 20 hours or something and the sites often restart the algorithmus system after 1 or 2 days
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Oh yeah didnt think of that (have to see river) alot of times to get a calc. I thought 30-45min sounded very fast. I hope it takes days and doesnt work
But its the only cheating program that made sense to me besides the trackers.
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Posted by M3turbo: Im2good4U maybe you dont know what an algorythm is. Its the formula for randomness there are limits to how random things get on a computer.Even with the advanced random generators. If you knew which formula the random generator uses u can for sure get the computer to gues a random number.
I heard a few years ago (don't know if it's true) that partypoker have machines that picks up noise from surroundings, ie traffic, and use that to generate randomnes for their RNG. If that's the case, then I don't think an algorythm would be possible to predict.
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Wow that would be advanced randomness. What a genius idea(traffic sounds) I guess they(pokersites) want a randomnes as close to live card randomnes as they can get. I actually heard Gus Hansen talk about more weird things happends while playing online contra live game because of the highly advanced random generators. But its pretty hard to prove, cant say that was too random or that wouldnt have happend live.
Posted by M3turbo: Wow that would be advanced randomness. What a genius idea(traffic sounds) I guess they(pokersites) want a randomnes as close to live card randomnes as they can get. I actually heard Gus Hansen talk about more weird things happends while playing online contra live game because of the highly advanced random generators. But its pretty hard to prove, cant say that was too random or that wouldnt have happend live.
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But if it's so random, Why do people often get pocked pair and like three others guys around the table to. Happend to me so often. Than I would have like 99 and some other guy JJ and another one AA or something.
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Yep me 2, I've come to the point where everytime i get pockets im very carefull unless its KK or AA In Doyle Brunsons Supersystem he says that everytime you get pockets you should be prepared that someone else got pockets. Even if its a lower pocket pair he will outflop aprox 10 % so be aware
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it's fake, it is not possible at all, since the poker sites' security level are so high, and you will have to get acces to their server to have a MINIMAL chance of cheating em
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Posted by tijmentjuh: Sometimes I wonder if the security system is that great as Benner says. I recognize some example's written above.
well poker is random (in denmark considered Hazard by the government, meaning that its nothing but luck). So strange can and will happen.. But can be that the security isnt that good. I frankly dont know for real.. Have just heard it.
I know there is alot of story's after the super user at absolute and people are all winned up. Funny enough after the Absolute super user the scammers has put loads of cheating stuff, i've seen on youtube and just on net loads of scammers that claim they can teach you how to control your hold cards and how to see opponent cards and im 100% sure nothing works(but havent tried and never will). Thats actually the funny part, the Scammers that sell cheating softwares that doesnt work are cheating people that wanted to cheat others. So they probably comfort them selves by saying i cheated a cheater. And who will the customer complain to when they dont get the expected. 
