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  3-Feb-11, 18:51   #1
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midnight1954 

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so after reading all the posts about the freeroll leaderboard I said to myself ok, have a go, dont like freerolls at the best of times specially with fields of 2k for a poxy 50$, anyway thats not the point, I ground away for nearly 4 hours and got on the final table with about 80k, chip lead about 400k if I remember , 7 left and things getting pushy lots of raises by the chip leader guy behind him 3 allins in 6 hands, I call his 4th all in and win, doubleing up to 400k, next hand chip leader does his usual raise and I go all in, and get beat but close, now am sure most will think it was a bad play but I dont think so, anyway finished 6th of 1800,,, profit 2,20 ,,,lol,,

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  3-Feb-11, 19:02   #2
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Flippedchips 

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just a flip, not bad i dont think mabe a bit quick to push all in but then agin you could be ahead of alot of his range you were just unlucky he had pp and a brave call from him with 8s but he was prob thinking the same as you. dont know how much he raised but final table so prob 100k plus anyway so you had to push really or fold and folding AK is hard at a FT its to big of a hand if you want to win the tourney in my eyes have to push cant just wait for As and Ks not bad in my eyes if he had folded or called with AQ or you hit would you be thinking about this Confused what was the bb at?

Edited by Flippedchips (03 February 2011 @ 19:08 GMT)


     
  3-Feb-11, 19:02   #3
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shokaku 

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Looks like a normal play to me. AKs is a strong hand, you had to go with it. Don't know the blinds. Maybe there was room for a simple reraise, instead of the all-in?

     
  3-Feb-11, 19:15   #4
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midnight1954 

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Posted by Flippedchips:
just a flip, not bad i dont think mabe a bit quick to push all in but then agin you could be ahead of alot of his range you were just unlucky he had pp and a brave call from him with 8s but he was prob thinking the same as you. dont know how much he raised but final table so prob 100k plus anyway so you had to push really or fold and folding AK is hard at a FT its to big of a hand if you want to win the tourney in my eyes have to push cant just wait for As and Ks not bad in my eyes if he had folded or called with AQ or you hit would you be thinking about this Confused what was the bb at?

yeah, I think the blinds were 3-6k he 4bet so I could of easily called even played a stop and go, I just knew or felt he didnt have much maybe a rag ace , this time he had something, he took time before calling so I suppose it was a good brave call,, but even on the river I had lots of outs and really thought I had him when he showed 88,lol,,if I had won the pot big chip lead , but I didnt so thats that,, if I had the same decision against the same player I would do the same I reckon,

     
  3-Feb-11, 19:17   #5
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gatorcountry 
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Posted by shokaku:
Looks like a normal play to me. AKs is a strong hand, you had to go with it. Don't know the blinds. Maybe there was room for a simple reraise, instead of the all-in?


I agree looks like a standard play to me as well. Ak is a very strong hand and in this case it was a flip which is all you can ask for..so it was a good play .

     
  3-Feb-11, 20:24   #6
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BadeaCR 
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Why were you playing push or fold vs him if you had 400k, he had more and the blinds were 3-6K ... you had so many blinds left...

Edit : Oh so you 3bet then he 4bet... not much to be said in that case.

Edited by BadeaCR (03 February 2011 @ 20:31 GMT)


     
  3-Feb-11, 21:24   #7
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midnight1954 

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Posted by BadeaCR:
Why were you playing push or fold vs him if you had 400k, he had more and the blinds were 3-6K ... you had so many blinds left...

Edit : Oh so you 3bet then he 4bet... not much to be said in that case.


your right enough he only 4 bet, I could easily of floated, but decided he was just stealing again and if he wasnt I still might be better than the range he had been pushing with beforehand, e.g, rag ace,

     
  4-Feb-11, 00:34   #8
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buenagueitor 
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I think was good played. Man AK is really good hand to die in a final table. And let me tell you that wasnt a cruel dead versus 88. Some people in that freerolls dont care about anything they are in prize and all is allowed for them if you had lost taht hand against 8Q off-suited or something like that you had felt what anger is hahah. Was good played from both sides.

     
  4-Feb-11, 09:13   #9
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exostenz 
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UL MAN. GG anyway

     
  4-Feb-11, 12:09   #10
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IslandJack 

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Definitely an OK play IMO.
Considering your stack and the raise 4 x 6.000, i would have called, but then you probably would have had to dump on the flop if you didnt hit.
It comes down to preference and playing style, I guess.
If I have the "room" chips-wise, I like to be more careful and try to get maximum chips, if I can.
I really like HU and as the blinds go up you know stacks will be chamging frequently.
So I would have played slower and waited for a better opportunity.


Not what most would do, I guess, but that´s my game.
On the other hand, I often get blinded down too low, so there you go. Blink
Good play in any case.

     
  4-Feb-11, 13:07   #11
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mazas 
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ok play i think in this situation i also do the same move becouse if u play u must play till the end
good luck next time and win more Big Smile
good luck all

     
  5-Feb-11, 01:35   #12
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Aggro666 
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against this aggro maniac it is not necessary to play marginal hands, they give you their chips with your good hand... even 6handed it is not necessary to be even more aggro than the aggro donk. BUT of course in a freeroll, where you just get a little bit more money top3 , you can risk anything

     
  5-Feb-11, 09:33   #13
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doomdy 

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Nothing wrong with ur shove, call is out of the question.
I shove with worse in this spot, AQ for sure 99+ for sure.

     
  5-Feb-11, 12:33   #14
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midnight1954 

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yeah if faced with the same choice I would do the same, like I said he was pushing his stack so I reckoned I was ahead and if I had won the pot the tournament was there for the taking , plus it was a freroll so easier decision than a big money one.

     
  5-Feb-11, 13:40   #15
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MANUEDO 
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Well done Mid, all you do is good Big Smile you were unlucky but next time .... Tongue Tongue

     
  5-Feb-11, 13:43   #16
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buenagueitor 
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I remembered you yesterday when I was just in a SnG bubble. I pushed with AA after flop and a guy with AK called.

He connected a straight on the river and I wanted to kill him! but... was a good push and a good call. This time the luck was with him. Anyway this is poker.

     
  5-Feb-11, 16:35   #17
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CMJ1102 
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It really depends what your goal is. If you want to win you made the right play with 7 players and AK suited and heads up is almost an automatic all-in. No complaints here on how you played it, but I am no Phil Ivey either.

     
  5-Feb-11, 16:41   #18
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Prawney 
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Yeah it looks pretty standard. Your at the final table. You cant wait for Aces or kings at this point so your hand crushes most of his range. Unlucky you end up vs a pair but still a flip.

     
  6-Feb-11, 15:46   #19
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Fakiry 

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At the point of the game, i think you did fine. You have to risk and thats what you did, i would have done the same.

     
  8-Feb-11, 10:27   #20
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mazas 
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good good good and nothing more we can all say
good luck in future and never loose hope for big win Big Smile

     
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