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Situation is like this: It's a 275FPP satellite to a $22 SCOOP event. 9 players left,8 win the ticket. Looking at the chip stacks,you can see there is one player who is really shortstacked.
Are you still pushing? Or are you making the same fold?
PokerStars Game #61183230755: Tournament #387296804, 275FPP Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2011/04/22 19:04:06 ET Table '387296804 3' 9-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: Koorahvah (12835 in chips) Seat 2: tiefensee90 (500 in chips) Seat 3: SindyJizz (9235 in chips) Seat 4: Matt2.5RST (3645 in chips) Seat 5: AndyFCB (6442 in chips) Seat 6: itsoosti (5520 in chips) Seat 7: OnlyCash4Me (6430 in chips) Seat 8: aemkay89 (12908 in chips) Seat 9: BeMyATMplz (3985 in chips) Koorahvah: posts the ante 50 tiefensee90: posts the ante 50 SindyJizz: posts the ante 50 Matt2.5RST: posts the ante 50 AndyFCB: posts the ante 50 itsoosti: posts the ante 50 OnlyCash4Me: posts the ante 50 aemkay89: posts the ante 50 BeMyATMplz: posts the ante 50 OnlyCash4Me: posts small blind 300 aemkay89: posts big blind 600 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to BeMyATMplz [Ah As] BeMyATMplz: folds Koorahvah: folds tiefensee90: folds SindyJizz: folds Matt2.5RST: folds AndyFCB: folds itsoosti: folds OnlyCash4Me: folds Uncalled bet (300) returned to aemkay89 aemkay89 collected 1050 from pot aemkay89: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1050 | Rake 0 Seat 1: Koorahvah folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: tiefensee90 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: SindyJizz folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: Matt2.5RST folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: AndyFCB folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: itsoosti (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: OnlyCash4Me (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 8: aemkay89 (big blind) collected (1050) Seat 9: BeMyATMplz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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yea with one guy with 500 and only him to go no big point in risking it but if he makes a miracle come back you would be kicking yourself if you were the bubble boy
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Agrtee with almos all, it is a good fold here: the shortstack is the one who has to make the move; you don't need to accumulate chips because of prizes structure
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ty all for your comments,yeah the guy busted shortly after,he got blinded out Also won a seat for the sunday turbo takedown right after this,so yesterday was a pretty good day obv
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Posted by BeMyATMplz: ty all for your comments,yeah the guy busted shortly after,he got blinded out Also won a seat for the sunday turbo takedown right after this,so yesterday was a pretty good day obv
well done, now keep us updated about big tournaments
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Posted by waster1: Folding AA preflop with nobody all in already is never a smart move.
There was this guy in The Big Game from pokerstars who folded AA and KK preflop just to secure his winnings.
But why do you play poker if you dont like to risk playing with AA or KK?
Did you even read what I wrote before I posted the HH? 9 players left,8 players get the ticket,1 player brutally shortstacked...I saw no need to risk my almost secured ticket there,it's not about "not liking to risk playing with AA/KK",it's about knowing the payout structure...
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Offcourse well done, its about the seat, you don't have to win the tourney. Gl, i"ll also be playing the LAST(!) turbo takedown. The prizepool is 750K instead of the usual 1 million and no car for the winner this time You"ll see, just when the prizepool is reduced i"ll win. I'm just that unlucky . See you at the finaltable, good luck
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as it is a satellite and everyone is getting the same price it is more than fine to lay it down. In a normal tourney of course you could never make such a laydown as you allways wanna go first and doesn´t care the bubble. but in that case: Why taking any risk at all?
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Yeah, that had to be a relief when the shortstacker went out because your chip stack was close to the bottom too, and if he survived another few rounds and your stack is dwindling it starts making you a very easy target, regardless of your hole cards!
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18 months ago I would say you did the wrong thing but now I have learned my lesson - the fold AA pre-flop was the best thing to do considering position and the prize structure. Well done BEMYATPLz - sorry if I got your name wrong !!!
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It's a very good call indeed, there was no need to risk, especially on a poker platform like pokerstars which is well knowed for the bad beats you get especially on river. On a freeroll or on a cash game table i would definately shove it all in. Just as a fyi, yesterday i lost with AA on SB on pokerstars on a no limit holdem 0.25/0.50$ cash table. Cutoff raised to 3x with KQ, he was short stacked and a fish. I raised 3 times his bet and he decided to go all in, i call. Flop was J4A(i flopped trips), turn is a 7 and you guessed already the river is a lucky T. The good part was that after 15 or so hands i won all his money with TTT vs two pairs, so it was good in the end. Good call again and good luck in the future! Let us know on your progress on scoop.
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when the short stack folds, theres no point being in the pot anymore unless u like to collect chips at expense of losing a surely earned ticket. i seen many ppl go 'bonkers' in satellite games and lose just because they cant fold their AA
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Posted by cuonthefelt: Scott Fischman explains this alomst exact situation in his book called "Online ACE" Great book, and great story....
Good fold, I would have done the same thing
yeah. There is just no single reason for you not to fold here. Only thing would be if you hate this guy But that would mean you would play with the influence of emotions which is generally -ev
. See you at the finaltable, good luck 
But that would mean you would play with the influence of emotions which is generally -ev 
