"long number probability" isn't mentioned once. If you say "long number", then coming from a computer science background - I think of a "long" which is a very large number, like a float or a double. If you're talking about the law of large numbers, then you should say so.
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Posted by onlinejoke: for alian life form though jess might qualify????
A) You have mis-spelled alien b) My name clearly states "human"
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Posted by onlinejoke: What do you mean 10 hands is not enough, Monitor 100 or 1000 or 10,000 then and check out this fraudulent certification for poker time.97.5% pay out lol isnt rake 5% and heads up thats 10% of your profit http://www.XXXXXXXX/certificate.aspx?cid=7
Those certificates are for video poker. I just checked it out, I even went to the casino site they are for and there is NO regular poker, they are video poker payouts, LMAO. You have out done yourself buddy
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Posted by Administrator: Watch your language or your posts (and access to BRM) might disappear... (and that applies to everyone)
I am fairly certain these threads are a conspiracy to get me banned.
In my defence, if it was any other regulated industry, these "rigged poker believing folks" could be sued for Libel. I for one are defending the integrity of this sites affiliates, whereas onlinejoke is being completely Libelous, particularly since he is making claims without anything to back it up. Personally, I'd love to see the poker industry file a class action against these clowns for Libel.
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Posted by onlinejoke: 97.5% pay out lol isnt rake 5% and heads up thats 10% of your profit
It was just a guess. Now keep in mind higher stakes have capped rake which equates to a LOT less than 5%. So I was guessing it possibly referred to an averaged out rake.
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Hmmm, another discussion I have idea jess... Next time just post all treads with this subject involved and let rigtards read your thoughts about this subject. You only lose time this way... They will never understand what are you saying.
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Posted by jovicakralj: Hmmm, another discussion I have idea jess... Next time just post all treads with this subject involved and let rigtards read your thoughts about this subject. You only lose time this way... They will never understand what are you saying.
but this one seems to love jess , look at the thread name
yep am 13 so be kind and understanding to me your making loads of new friends here, also did my avatar give my real age away as well Edited by dozn01 (Wednesday, May 25, 2011 @ 08:52 GMT)
------------ long number probability" isn't mentioned once. If you say "long number", then coming from a computer science background - I think of a "long" which is a very large number, like a float or a double. If you're talking about the law of large numbers, then you should say so.
is exactly what I have been saying to you the whole time. Collect a LARGE NUMBER of sample HH and analyse it - as you say - it should reflect very close to its expected outcome.
Those certificates are for video poker. I just checked it out, I even went to the casino site they are for and there is NO regular poker, they are video poker payouts, LMAO. You have out done yourself buddy
Its poker time go there site and check out direct there certification of European roulette is incorrectly certified at 95% payout, my point to this is if they offer false certification for any product they cannot be trusted. Also poker is stated at 95% payout and at lower odds this is 10% again a reflection of false certification. This clearly proves no proper testing.
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actually its NOT false certification regarding those roulette stats or anything else. All certified Payouts (80%,95%, etc) for any game (slots, roulette, etc) are known to be for OPTIMAL playing strategy only. I've known this since I was a kid lol. And here I am telling you and you're 51.
------------ And those links you provided were DEFINITELY for video poker. I did check it out, I'm not sure how you've gotten yourself confused.
is exactly what I have been saying to you the whole time. Collect a LARGE NUMBER of sample HH and analyse it - as you say - it should reflect very close to its expected outcome.
Read more: http://www.bankrollmob.com/forum.asp?mode=thread&id... REPLY So you know the numbers dont add up if you have done this????????????? what is your win rate for pocket aces????????? come on part with some fkin facts
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I'm sorry to say, but you're probably just not as intelligent as you think you are. It is actually quite difficult to argue/discuss these things with you, because you don't exactly make sense all the time. And things seem to go straight over your head.
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Posted by onlinejoke: What on earth are you on about ?
is exactly what I have been saying to you the whole time. Collect a LARGE NUMBER of sample HH and analyse it - as you say - it should reflect very close to its expected outcome.
Read more: http://www.bankrollmob.com/forum.asp?mode=thread&id... REPLY So you know the numbers dont add up if you have done this????????????? what is your win rate for pocket aces????????? come on part with some fkin facts
I'm on my laptop at the moment, HEM is on my PC - I'll post them for you sometime in the next few days when I can be fucked. I can promise you though, my AA usually holds up. I never get how all these people think they lose with AA all the time, I just assume they don't know how to play them properly.
actually its NOT false certification regarding those roulette stats or anything else. All certified Payouts (80%,95%, etc) for any game (slots, roulette, etc) are known to be for OPTIMAL playing strategy only. I've known this since I was a kid lol. And here I am telling you and you're 51.
------------ And those links you provided were DEFINITELY for video poker. I did check it out, I'm not sure how you've gotten yourself confused.
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Posted by onlinejoke: So you know the numbers dont add up if you have done this?????????????
What are you talking about ? in not one post have I said I have done this. In fact - I have been incredibly clear the whole time : The ONUS is on YOU to provide evidence to support your theory, not me. I don't believe your theory so I have not put in the time/research REQUIRED to provide the empirical data to prove/disprove it. HOWEVER - I have used hand-trackers (HEM) and from my own HH that I have tracked, I have never noticed anything odd.
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Posted by onlinejoke: but if roulette is un bias spin of the wheel as they say the poker is then Europen roulette should pay greater than 95% yes
Not exactly sure what you mean ?
Casino games (roulette etc) have a house edge - that payout percentage (90%, 95% etc) represents the MAXIMUM possible payout according to mathematical probability assuming you play optimal strategy. What I mean my optimal strategy is - some bets in roulette for example have a larger house edge, due to their payouts. I believe betting single numbers nets you closest to evens, although I could be wrong. Slot machines you need to bet a SINGLE pay line only, to achieve maxium payout rates (ie; optimal strategy is usually NOT betting max lines)
I am fairly certain these threads are a conspiracy to get me banned.
In my defence, if it was any other regulated industry, these "rigged poker believing folks" could be sued for Libel. I for one are defending the integrity of this sites affiliates, whereas onlinejoke is being completely Libelous, particularly since he is making claims without anything to back it up. Personally, I'd love to see the poker industry file a class action against these clowns for Libel.
I readily challenge any of them to take this to court. To bring a liable action would expose there bias deals and expose them to charges of fraud. And remember we are talking about sites that have been accused of criminal activity here.
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Posted by onlinejoke:
So to say 95% optimal pay out is incorrect or false. and please whats the win rate on some of your group one hands from you rHH
I'm honestly on my laptop at the moment and H EM is on my PC - you'll need to give me some time on that, as I don't even have it installed any more - as the HUD only works for 1 table at a time on PKR and is a bit useless. However - I'll look into it for you when I got some time to install it and group the hands etc. However - as I say - I did check it out when I did use it and nothing was ever odd, it all ran pretty close to expectation.
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Posted by onlinejoke:
I readily challenge any of them to take this to court. To bring a liable action would expose there bias deals and expose them to charges of fraud.
Don't kid yourself, you would be destroyed in court.
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Posted by onlinejoke:
publish some facts that will resolve this issue
You still just don't get it. YOU need to publish some facts, to support your allegations. I'm not the one making allegations or spreading conspiracy theories, that is you. You need to get your head around that.
------------ anyway, I'm off to the pub now. Have fun.
Casino games (roulette etc) have a house edge - that payout percentage (90%, 95% etc) represents the MAXIMUM possible payout according to mathematical probability assuming you play optimal strategy. What I mean my optimal strategy is - some bets in roulette for example have a larger house edge, due to their payouts. I believe betting single numbers nets you closest to evens, although I could be wrong. Slot machines you need to bet a SINGLE pay line only, to achieve maxium payout rates (ie; optimal strategy is usually NOT betting max lines)
Here you go again posting crap???????? European roulette played at optimal odds should return over 98% so at last we have some facts and guess what the true return is different from certification. So we have a testing house that for many years has falsly posted certifications.These guys also check out a lot of poker sites??
------------ I'm honestly on my laptop at the moment and H EM is on my PC - you'll need to give me some time on that, as I don't even have it installed any more - as the HUD only works for 1 table at a time on PKR and is a bit useless. However - I'll look into it for you when I got some time to install it and group the hands etc. However - as I say - I did check it out when I did use it and nothing was ever odd, it all ran pretty close to expectation.
I have idea jess... Next time just post all treads with this subject involved and let rigtards read your thoughts about this subject. You only lose time this way... They will never understand what are you saying.
