Joined: Jul '09
Location: Portugal
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I play with no deposit bonus for some time now and I couldn't never clear anything. I think that is because I suck but I still love to play. On the other and, I don't play many live events maybe 6(?) and already got me some good amounts. really don't understand why I can't win online
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Posted by Macubaas: It seems you need to play a lot in order to release the 70 dollars bonus, i mean on NL50 the amount of rake generated is really high, so to me just 380 points it's a bit less. Frankly i'm used to rush poker nowadays, since i only play rush poker and pot limit omaha, and the amount of full tilt points you make during a ruh session especially if you get the happy hour is just huge. But again there is also a rake problem, i mean how many rake points do you get on PKR for a dollar paid as rake?? For examplke on full tilit poker you get 10 full tiilt points for each rake dollar paid, and if it's happy hour you get twice more points Keep us posted!!
I dont think it takes troo much time if i see that yestrday in 30 minutes i played more or less 20 hands and the other i played 1 hour nl25 with around 40 hands. Iam playing a little higher cause i am not multitabling there, is i could play at lçeast 4 tables in my pc iam sure i would play more times and generate more bonus, as Jess said.
Joined: May '09
Location: India
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yeah if you are playing at a site regularly its important you have a rakeback deal or/and deposit/reload bonuses. they are important boosts to bankroll and help you take care of those downswings.
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
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Posted by Macubaas: It seems you need to play a lot in order to release the 70 dollars bonus, i mean on NL50 the amount of rake generated is really high, so to me just 380 points it's a bit less. Frankly i'm used to rush poker nowadays, since i only play rush poker and pot limit omaha, and the amount of full tilt points you make during a ruh session especially if you get the happy hour is just huge. But again there is also a rake problem, i mean how many rake points do you get on PKR for a dollar paid as rake?? For examplke on full tilit poker you get 10 full tiilt points for each rake dollar paid, and if it's happy hour you get twice more points Keep us posted!!
* The rake generated at nl50 isn't NOT really high, actually - it is at 5% (of pot) whereas the micro stakes charge 10%. * You need f**k all to clear $70 if you're playing nl50 * PKR points system is VERY easy to follow - you get 1 point for every 1c in rake/fee you pay, ie; 100pts / $1. *PKR also has double points offers sometimes - however (and this is the SAME on FTP/Stars/etc) these do NOT count towards bonus clearing. *Bonuses on PKR clear at 40% rb (meaning once you've cleared your bonus - you will receive 40% of what you have paid in rake and fees). - This is pretty good by reload bonus standards.
Joined: Mar '11
Location: Germany
Age: 55 (M)
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So if I calculate it correct, I have to make 250 points for each bonus $ to clear. This means 25000 points for clearing a $100 bonus, which have to be done within 60 days. Assuming that one cannot play every day from these 60 days time, but for instance on 50 days, it equals to 500 points per day ($5 rake) to clear the $100 bonus. From my experience of clearing a bonus at PartyPoker I don´t think that this can be done at NL10. But I would like to read any real experience with this.
Joined: Apr '09
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Posted by MIGO14: I don't think that this can be done at NL10. But I would like to read any real experience with this.
I used to 6-table 6max nl10 on PKR and I usually raked around $8-$20 /hr (800 - 2000 pts).
I don't play full ring, so I really have no idea what kind of bonus you should try for. FYI PKR charges 10% rake on nl10 - so you actually build points almost as quick as when you play nl25 - since you're paying twice the rake. Not saying this is a good thing - obviously it's not. But you CAN clear a bonus pretty fast.
I've actually cleared a $500 bonus (60days) playing almost nothing but nl10 (6max and HU). These days I generally play higher limts though.
------------ Oh actually - I just remembered, you mentioned 250pts per $1 of bonus. Last time I checked - the first deposit bonus (max $800) still clears at this rate, however - sometimes the reloads are slightly worse @ 275pts/$1
Joined: Mar '11
Location: Germany
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Hey Jess, many thanks for the additional information. Per hour $8 to $ 20 ? So there will stillbe hope for me, lol. But I guess first of all I have to clear bonus at Party, afterwards at FT and then maybe PKR. Additional question: Do they have some freerolls, so I can maybe test software and everything else before cashing in ?
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
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Posted by MIGO14: Hey Jess, many thanks for the additional information. Per hour $8 to $ 20 ?
Yeh - But I am an aggressive LAGtard lol. Playing 6max LAG - seeing a LOT of flops and 6-tables at once, you can easily expect to rake $10+/hr
Yes - they have plenty of freerolls - although, the "good" ones are all premium - like member-level ones, rankings ones, or even points buy-in ones. The actual 'free' ones aren't very good - like $5 with 600 players lol. However - they do run 10s SNGs freerolls with prizepool of 10c - these run constantly (fillup every few seconds lol) - they're pot limit however - so they take half hour or so to complete. They're better value than the $5 MTT freerolls lol.
Also - they have all the normal play money offerings too - interestingly - these are full of USA players - however, PKR has NEVER accepted USA real money players..
Joined: Mar '11
Location: Germany
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Thanks again for your help. Hmm, I am not experienced in 6max tables and in addition Iam more the kind of a very tight player, not seeing to many flops - so its different situation. I guess I will maybe at first try out these SNG freerolls, trying to get familiar with the site etc.
