well here i am playing my A game on omaha high and low , steadly building my roll up using bankroll management, and to be really honest its very hard work, and it takes a long time, being very discipline in what i do, i can say i am a winning player at poker at the moment and very consistent , not many players can say that, dont get me wrong ive lost a couple buyins in a session im not perfect, but i have a break for a hour watch a movie to clear my mind, then go back grinding win 3 to 5 buyins back , then go play the smaller tables or play a small mtt, cause i really need to work on my game in no limit mtts, (reason i play the smaller stakes is so i dont eat in to my profit for the day, and to work on my game) i do this every day now and its working for me at this moment, i have a different out look on poker now, i have cut out a lot of bad habits, which i use to do, (playing drunk, go on tables with all my money, taking a quick shot at the big (time) tables, i feel alot better with my game and myself for doing all this, and its really paying off, i hope mobsters here could take this advise but for me i couldnt when someone told me this, (even my self) always went to my old ways, i had to learn the hard way for the past 10 years, and some think had to change, and it did!!! now i have found a winning formula for me to win reglaur at poker, and am gonna stick to it now, i wish all mobsters good luck at the tables, and below is one hand from my session which i picked out, this guy tryed to take me off the pot on the turn with a reraise to my $5 bet, silly player dosnt know who i am , KING of omaha high and low (had the nut low on the turn anyway was never folding)
PokerStars Game #64306973725: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2011/07/08 16:19:43 ET Table 'Melanie V' 9-max Seat #2 is the button Seat 1: dozn01 ($53.95 in chips) Seat 2: mrpacey ($17.25 in chips) Seat 3: mahlonaa ($204.60 in chips) Seat 4: Tavare ($51.10 in chips) Seat 5: Gilberto1980 ($68.35 in chips) Seat 6: haruurara ($24.80 in chips) Seat 8: haueb ($51.05 in chips) Seat 9: personal ($48.35 in chips) mahlonaa: posts small blind $0.25 Tavare: posts big blind $0.50 simcity19: sits out *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to dozn01 [Qd 2c As Qc] Gilberto1980: raises $1 to $1.50 haruurara: folds haueb: folds personal: folds dozn01: calls $1.50 mrpacey: folds mahlonaa: folds Tavare: folds *** FLOP *** [3c 8d 9h] Gilberto1980: checks dozn01: bets $2.50 Gilberto1980: calls $2.50 *** TURN *** [3c 8d 9h] Gilberto1980: checks dozn01: bets $5 Gilberto1980: raises $18.35 to $23.35 dozn01: raises $26.60 to $49.95 and is all-in Gilberto1980: calls $26.60 *** RIVER *** [3c 8d 9h 5s] *** SHOW DOWN *** Gilberto1980: shows [4c 5h 2d Ah] (HI: a pair of Fives; LO: 8,5,3,2,A) dozn01: shows [Qd 2c As Qc] (HI: a pair of Queens; LO: 8,5,3,2,A) dozn01 collected $52.85 from pot Gilberto1980 collected $26.40 from pot dozn01 collected $26.40 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $108.65 | Rake $3 Board [3c 8d 9h 5s Jd] Seat 1: dozn01 showed [Qd 2c As Qc] and won ($79.25) with HI: a pair of Queens; LO: 8,5,3,2,A Seat 2: mrpacey (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: mahlonaa (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: Tavare (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 5: Gilberto1980 showed [4c 5h 2d Ah] and won ($26.40) with HI: a pair of Fives; LO: 8,5,3,2,A Seat 6: haruurara folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: haueb folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: personal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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good onya man,poker is a tough gig sometimetimes.go a mate who just doesnt get it,plays everyhand,etc etc,get the shits cuz he get bad beats,but he playing hands like k6 suited.alaways hits 2 pair,then cracks it when he lose to a hand thats better,but i had two pair,yeah junk 2 pair,he will never change,good for you that you realised,bankroll management is hard to learn but when you do it makes the game so much better,im crap at hi/lo omaha tho,so i dont play it.
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how do you play hi/lo im just lookin for some advice because sometimes the plo8 games are horrible do you set/flush mine and just try to see a lot of cheap flops? thats how i play lol dont use that against me if you see me at a table though lmao also some advice on no limit MTTs is bet what you have in the micros, NEVER bluff cuz youll get idiots who call with bottom pair and you should be +EV as long as you do that lol
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So far i've never tried PLO 8 on play money or real money, but i do usually play pot limit omaha on real money, but by the looks of it seems PLO 8 it's a lot more complex game than omaha hi
Still, since we are talking about omaha, you said you respect a good bankroll management, so my question is how many buy ins do you have for a limit, i know many say you need at least 50 buy ins but frankly i think 25 are enough.
Well at least it was enough for me on full tilt poker to grow from PLO 5 to PLO 10, although i had a bad downswing in a time, 25 bi were more than enough. What do you think
@jibbberish and macubaas, i play 1c/2c, 2c/5c, 5c/10c, 10c/25c, 50c/$1,omaha h/l games and if i had a very good day at the level which my level allows me to play , which is mainly 25c/50c and win 3 to 5 buying, i might try the $1/$2 games with $100 sat a the table, but i have only tryed this once i knew it was a risk but if i lost it, i still would of made a profit for the day, but for every level there is, there are different tactics and playing styles i would say 50 buying to be completly safe but yes 25 or even 20 buyin is ok, all depents on how good of a player you are, and can recognize how the hand is gonna pan out, you are thinking all the time, selecting hands to play, always puting your opponent on a hand, its really hard for me to explain omaha high and low, there is loads of different situation, but one tip in omaha is never bluff ever!!! cause they always have it, if you have the nuts or a very good drawing hand for the high and low always bet there is no slow play in this game, if your agressive at no limit holdem, this game is for you, and that why the pots are massive at times, even thou you get a people who dont understand omaha h/l, always say i hate that game , cause you have to share the pot, thinking its not profitable, well there wrong trust me
another tip the more people in the pot, the high the odds the player has the same drawing hand as you, say you have ace 2 xx, get 4 callers and the flop comes 3 6 8 rainbow, you lead out cause you have the nut low hand bet the pot, all the other players call, you have to be aware that they have the same low hand as you, and this leads to it being a split pot for the low 4 ways which is not profitable, also the rake is a killer, if you dont win at least 1 pot to your self, and the only way to win is to get the high hand, if a player raise the pot and you have no chance of getting the high hand, be willing to fold the nut low............. yes might sound silly but i have done this before and all the other players have had ace 2, and lost money you have to be very aware in the betting patterns, i hope you understand what im trying to say ,like i said it hard to explain omaha h/l try to get heads up at the river too good luck in your game
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Wow, that is such a huge pot. Congratulations there. How did it get that high on a 0.25./0.50 table, yikes.
Glad to hear you've found your dedication. A lot of the trip ups you mentioned I still do on occasion and I guess I haven't learned enough. Glad to hear you've found the perfect blend of art and skill to keep that bankroll growing.
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nice to know you are doing well at plo l/h and hope you maintain your discipline in future. not a big fan of hi/lo but agree with u on the advice, many times i have seen people lose money because they cudna fold their low hand.
Posted by B1gfoot: Yerrrrr LOL nice to know your doing err...well, quit the cash games your tourns are looking a bit better, johnboy.
yeah there getting a bit better at the mo (mtt), but my sit and gos are pretty poor thou there, and dont ask me why my username is johnboy at pokerstars you been checking my stats to see if im telling the truth B1gfoot
in another thread i said i wernt gonna play today cause i had my kids, well i found the time and heres afew winning hand note i didnt edit it to dozn01
PokerStars Game #64341120648: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2011/07/09 12:59:30 ET Table 'Ortutay IV' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: Jenndo ($44.37 in chips) Seat 2: johnboy1280 ($26.96 in chips) Seat 3: wodahcs ($8.43 in chips) Seat 4: jacko_185 ($9.39 in chips) Seat 5: friarbuck ($2.27 in chips) Seat 6: lolina mae ($25.65 in chips) Seat 7: krzychuksu ($24.76 in chips) Seat 8: DOT19 ($24.07 in chips) Seat 9: GonZaTH ($28.80 in chips) DOT19: posts small blind $0.05 GonZaTH: posts big blind $0.10 Jenndo: posts the ante $0.02 johnboy1280: posts the ante $0.02 wodahcs: posts the ante $0.02 jacko_185: posts the ante $0.02 friarbuck: posts the ante $0.02 lolina mae: posts the ante $0.02 krzychuksu: posts the ante $0.02 DOT19: posts the ante $0.02 GonZaTH: posts the ante $0.02 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to johnboy1280 [9d Ad Ac 2h] Jenndo: folds johnboy1280: calls $0.10 wodahcs: folds jacko_185: folds friarbuck: folds lolina mae: folds krzychuksu: calls $0.10 DOT19: calls $0.05 GonZaTH: checks *** FLOP *** [4d 4h Js] DOT19: checks GonZaTH: checks johnboy1280: checks krzychuksu: checks *** TURN *** [4d 4h Js] DOT19: checks GonZaTH: checks johnboy1280: bets $0.56 krzychuksu: raises $1.68 to $2.24 DOT19: folds GonZaTH: folds johnboy1280: raises $5.04 to $7.28 krzychuksu: raises $15.12 to $22.40 johnboy1280: raises $4.44 to $26.84 and is all-in krzychuksu: calls $2.24 and is all-in Uncalled bet ($2.20) returned to johnboy1280 *** RIVER *** [4d 4h Js As] *** SHOW DOWN *** johnboy1280: shows [9d Ad Ac 2h] (HI: a full house, Aces full of Fours) krzychuksu: shows [8s Jh Jd Tc] (HI: a full house, Jacks full of Fours) johnboy1280 collected $47.86 from pot No low hand qualified *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $49.86 | Rake $2 Board [4d 4h Js As 4c] Seat 1: Jenndo folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: johnboy1280 showed [9d Ad Ac 2h] and won ($47.86) with HI: a full house, Aces full of Fours Seat 3: wodahcs folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: jacko_185 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: friarbuck folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: lolina mae folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: krzychuksu (button) showed [8s Jh Jd Tc] and lost with HI: a full house, Jacks full of Fours Seat 8: DOT19 (small blind) folded on the Turn Seat 9: GonZaTH (big blind) folded on the Turn
PokerStars Game #64341728302: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2011/07/09 13:15:19 ET Table 'Ortutay IV' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: Jenndo ($48.15 in chips) Seat 2: johnboy1280 ($49.76 in chips) Seat 3: wodahcs ($11.77 in chips) Seat 4: jacko_185 ($8.39 in chips) Seat 6: lolina mae ($25.22 in chips) Seat 7: krzychuksu ($25 in chips) Seat 8: DOT19 ($27.58 in chips) Seat 9: GonZaTH ($22.38 in chips) jacko_185: posts small blind $0.05 Villain: is sitting out lolina mae: posts big blind $0.10 Jenndo: posts the ante $0.02 johnboy1280: posts the ante $0.02 wodahcs: posts the ante $0.02 jacko_185: posts the ante $0.02 lolina mae: posts the ante $0.02 krzychuksu: posts the ante $0.02 DOT19: posts the ante $0.02 GonZaTH: posts the ante $0.02 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to johnboy1280 [Ah 5d Kh Kc] krzychuksu: folds DOT19: folds GonZaTH: calls $0.10 Jenndo: folds johnboy1280: calls $0.10 wodahcs: folds jacko_185: calls $0.05 lolina mae: checks *** FLOP *** [6s 8s Kd] jacko_185: checks lolina mae: checks GonZaTH: bets $0.30 johnboy1280: calls $0.30 jacko_185: folds lolina mae: folds *** TURN *** [6s 8s Kd] GonZaTH: bets $1.11 johnboy1280: raises $3.33 to $4.44 GonZaTH: calls $3.33 *** RIVER *** [6s 8s Kd Tc] GonZaTH: checks johnboy1280: bets $5.50 GonZaTH: calls $5.50 *** SHOW DOWN *** johnboy1280: shows [Ah 5d Kh Kc] (HI: a full house, Kings full of Eights) GonZaTH: mucks hand johnboy1280 collected $20.02 from pot No low hand qualified *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $21.04 | Rake $1.02 Board [6s 8s Kd Tc 8d] Seat 1: Jenndo folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: johnboy1280 showed [Ah 5d Kh Kc] and won ($20.02) with HI: a full house, Kings full of Eights Seat 3: wodahcs (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: jacko_185 (small blind) folded on the Flop Seat 6: lolina mae (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 7: krzychuksu folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: DOT19 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: GonZaTH mucked [7h 9s 2s 3c]
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Posted by dozn01: @jibbberish and macubaas, i play 1c/2c, 2c/5c, 5c/10c, 10c/25c, 50c/$1,omaha h/l games and if i had a very good day at the level which my level allows me to play , which is mainly 25c/50c and win 3 to 5 buying, i might try the $1/$2 games with $100 sat a the table, but i have only tryed this once i knew it was a risk but if i lost it, i still would of made a profit for the day, but for every level there is, there are different tactics and playing styles i would say 50 buying to be completly safe but yes 25 or even 20 buyin is ok, all depents on how good of a player you are, and can recognize how the hand is gonna pan out, you are thinking all the time, selecting hands to play, always puting your opponent on a hand, its really hard for me to explain omaha high and low, there is loads of different situation, but one tip in omaha is never bluff ever!!! cause they always have it, if you have the nuts or a very good drawing hand for the high and low always bet there is no slow play in this game, if your agressive at no limit holdem, this game is for you, and that why the pots are massive at times, even thou you get a people who dont understand omaha h/l, always say i hate that game , cause you have to share the pot, thinking its not profitable, well there wrong trust me
another tip the more people in the pot, the high the odds the player has the same drawing hand as you, say you have ace 2 xx, get 4 callers and the flop comes 3 6 8 rainbow, you lead out cause you have the nut low hand bet the pot, all the other players call, you have to be aware that they have the same low hand as you, and this leads to it being a split pot for the low 4 ways which is not profitable, also the rake is a killer, if you dont win at least 1 pot to your self, and the only way to win is to get the high hand, if a player raise the pot and you have no chance of getting the high hand, be willing to fold the nut low............. yes might sound silly but i have done this before and all the other players have had ace 2, and lost money you have to be very aware in the betting patterns, i hope you understand what im trying to say ,like i said it hard to explain omaha h/l try to get heads up at the river too good luck in your game
I find this post to be one of most useful that I ever read so Thanks
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LOL, I stumbled across it a while back from railing photolong, I check in on a few of bankrollmob users from time to time, there are some really good players here, but some/most of the big players don't post. for the long post I partially read, can see it helping some users here.
Posted by B1gfoot: LOL, I stumbled across it a while back from railing photolong, I check in on a few of bankrollmob users from time to time, there are some really good players here, but some/most of the big players don't post. for the long post I partially read, can see it helping some users here.
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It seems you are doing good lately at Poker Stars. Des this mean that if Full Tilt reopens you wont play there anymore? I wish you keep your winning strike there, gl
Posted by Mober: It seems you are doing good lately at Poker Stars. Des this mean that if Full Tilt reopens you wont play there anymore? I wish you keep your winning strike there, gl
yeah ive doing very good there, playing really well, had afew badbeats but thats part of the game, when or if full tilt opens i wont be going back, pokerstars has more traffic at omaha h/l, when full tilt was up and running b4 not many tables was there compared to stars, yes indeed i hope this winning streak continues, good luck your self and see you soon for more posts
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Just wanted to say I also found this post to be very useful to me yesterday. After reading this post I went on to play for the day. 0.05.0.10 NL cash game 10 seaters. I was playing 4 tables and in about 2 hours I had 5 bad beats that cost me $27 bucks. Needless to say, I was frustrated. But I took a 2 hour break and then ended up finishing the day up $5. Thanks.
Posted by Arithmajik: Just wanted to say I also found this post to be very useful to me yesterday. After reading this post I went on to play for the day. 0.05.0.10 NL cash game 10 seaters. I was playing 4 tables and in about 2 hours I had 5 bad beats that cost me $27 bucks. Needless to say, I was frustrated. But I took a 2 hour break and then ended up finishing the day up $5. Thanks.
Posted by tormulainen: Wery nice played sir. Your attitude is also admiring. I know that someday you will be playing plo100000 with ivey,durr and antonius.
i really hope that il be playing that high in the future at the moment am running very well my mtt are inproving had some good cashers latley, my cash game is hot too thats my bread and butter, in the coming weeks i hope to play the $1/$2 omaha h/l cash tables, buyin at max on table i like to play at a level where i have at least 30 to 40 buying for the level am playing at, gives me security, yes this is high but it makes me play my A game having good bankroll management,
i dont know if i want to cash out some of my winnings have some think to show for my effort in the last 3 weeks at stars, and still have a good roll to play the 5c/10c, 10c/25 ,25c/50, or try and move up another level, cause clearly i can beat these levels with ease, cash out still play these levels but will take me longer to move up, but il have some money in the bank, or just see how high i can go, and thats my problem at the moment,
any winning player here at bankrollmob who can give me some advise on this please
Thanks 
