Joined: Mar '09
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big of course is in the eyes of the beholder.. playing .50 to $1 cash table
double up on A-k stack now at $86 - next hand AA - raise $5 called by one....flop comes 2-8-q rainbow....guy bets $10 - I go all in....not wanting him to see another card....he shows pocket q's......ouch
2nd loss - stack at $56 - a-j clubs......call raise of $5 hoping to get lucky....flop comes 6c - 8c - kc.. giving me the nut flush...he goes all in....i call my $56...he shows pair of K's......so I'm looking good until his trips - get runner4 - and another 4 for the boat....
3rd loss.... and last of my on line poker playin...
my stack $35 - a-k off.....i raise - called by one.... flop comes a-6-3 rainbow....i check raise for $15...he goes all in....I'm stuck - pot commited etc...... I call the rest of my stack.....to my great joy he shows a-8...I'm 85% or something like that....nothing on the turn....and yep you know what happened nest.....8 ON THE RIVER......ugh!!!!!
did i play them wrong?? maybe all in not the play?? don't know.....all I know is I'm done....out of cash / patience....and I still think that on line poker has the opportunity for computer whizes and the sites themselves to cheat......i know I know.....another poker playing whining....like i said oh well...
Joined: Mar '11
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Posted by crow58: big of course is in the eyes of the beholder.. playing .50 to $1 cash table
double up on A-k stack now at $86 - next hand AA - raise $5 called by one....flop comes 2-8-q rainbow....guy bets $10 - I go all in....not wanting him to see another card....he shows pocket q's......ouch
2nd loss - stack at $56 - a-j clubs......call raise of $5 hoping to get lucky....flop comes 6c - 8c - kc.. giving me the nut flush...he goes all in....i call my $56...he shows pair of K's......so I'm looking good until his trips - get runner4 - and another 4 for the boat....
3rd loss.... and last of my on line poker playin...
my stack $35 - a-k off.....i raise - called by one.... flop comes a-6-3 rainbow....i check raise for $15...he goes all in....I'm stuck - pot commited etc...... I call the rest of my stack.....to my great joy he shows a-8...I'm 85% or something like that....nothing on the turn....and yep you know what happened nest.....8 ON THE RIVER......ugh!!!!!
did i play them wrong?? maybe all in not the play?? don't know.....all I know is I'm done....out of cash / patience....and I still think that on line poker has the opportunity for computer whizes and the sites themselves to cheat......i know I know.....another poker playing whining....like i said oh well...
I think you played the hands just fine, where you failed was proper bankroll management.
Sitting at $100 NL with your whole roll of $86 is bankroll suicide man.
With $86, you should be playing $2NL or POSSIBLY $4NL if you're a solid winning player.
Hopefully you'll take this as a learning experience, and if you decided to play again, you'll adhere to proper bankroll management.
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
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The main error here is obviously playing well outside your bankroll and experience.
"playing .50 to $1 cash table"
OK...
"double up on A-k stack now at $86"
Err... if you double up on .5/1 you should have ~$200, not $86..
Rather than playing ultra-short stack at stakes above your bankroll, perhaps stick to at least a minimal 15-20BI rule..
The beats WILL come, there is no maybe about it, if you risk 1/4 of your bankroll at a single table, you will go bust..
Your hands aren't even really bad beats, mostly just coolers and UL - First hand is a definite cooler, 2nd hand; well you got it in good, but considering he hit a set on flop he wasn't getting away either and there's pretty good chances for sets to re-draw to a boat, you're not THAT far ahead with a flush. EDIT: Oops originally misread last hand, this one IS a badbeat.. But yeah, as has been said, the main problem is your bankroll management.. Poker is a game of variance.
But ultimately the biggest mistake was playing large portions of your bankroll under-rolled at a limit you probably aren't ready to be play anyway..
Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 37 (M)
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like others said if 3 buyins are big loss for your bankroll, you are playing out of roll. every player will have bad luck/ downswing at some point cos of variance so u need to have proper bankroll management to counter that. anyways gl
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You were definitely in deep waters there. Thats the right example of what not to do and what limits not to play with that bankroll. A proper use of bankroll management will be the best thing to do next time.
Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
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I would say you were lucky, lost 1st AI @NL100 and only lose $30, 2nd AI only lose $21 and 3rd AI $35, not that bad, but why if playing short stack pick a table full of short stackers, why play over your limits? Sit at any NL100 tablewithout a full stack and people will start gunning for you. There is no point in even looking at weather you played the hads right as you are already playing the game wrong.
Posted by jessthehuman: The main error here is obviously playing well outside your bankroll and experience.
"playing .50 to $1 cash table"
OK...
"double up on A-k stack now at $86"
Err... if you double up on .5/1 you should have ~$200, not $86..
Rather than playing ultra-short stack at stakes above your bankroll, perhaps stick to at least a minimal 15-20BI rule..
The beats WILL come, there is no maybe about it, if you risk 1/4 of your bankroll at a single table, you will go bust..
Your hands aren't even really bad beats, mostly just coolers and UL - First hand is a definite cooler, 2nd hand; well you got it in good, but considering he hit a set on flop he wasn't getting away either and there's pretty good chances for sets to re-draw to a boat, you're not THAT far ahead with a flush. EDIT: Oops originally misread last hand, this one IS a badbeat.. But yeah, as has been said, the main problem is your bankroll management.. Poker is a game of variance.
But ultimately the biggest mistake was playing large portions of your bankroll under-rolled at a limit you probably aren't ready to be play anyway..
Well, GL in the future
What more can I say? You've said it all my friend
But still, he hasn't done anything wrong, so with a bigger bankroll, maybe he COULD play at these limits
Joined: May '11
Location: Belgium
Age: 35 (M)
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Good solide advice here bigfoot. I'm a extreme micro player and a bad bankrollmanager myself... I tilt rather easely and try to cover up downswings by going on to higher limits.
This either gets you back break-even, or lose nearly or whole bankroll. 2hours later you wish you hadn't. Bankrollmanagement is just the only way to stay in the game if you have skills.
