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The role of mathematics in poker

Anyone who plans to live poker or at least make money from it, should have an idea about what role general mathematics in the theory of poker and what their specific importance, if it is absolutely essential to master certain techniques mathematics, or if it is something that can meet through acquired knowledge from other players or experience.

Following the article by Bryce Paradis you have translated into NoticiasPoker, we split the game of poker on two fundamental and independent: 1) determine the most likely strategy of the opponent. 2) Once we have determined that strategy, the strategy we play more long-term expected value against the opponent's strategy.

It should draw attention to the fact that, only with the simple aid of mathematics, we can solve point 2 to perfection. If an opponent raises 20bb many hands pre-flop and leaves many hands before a re-raise can be determined mathematically with absolute precision what is the range within which we play against that player. (If the opponent has 100BB may also be, but the calculations are greatly complicated even for a bot).

Does this mean that a first-hand knowledge of mathematics is essential to choose correctly our strategy moves against rival? Well, in principle it would be exactly like that. It may be inferred that most EV movements were as simple and intuitive than any normal human psychophysical conditions could clearly see it almost without thinking, is what happens in the rock-paper-scissors, where if we could figure out what is going to take our opponent, we should not break his head to respond with the best move. Another example is the game of three-in-line, a little more complicated but still any human can be solved with a little effort. In contrast, games like go, chess or backgammon is nothing intuitive, and deduct the perfect play, even with hand all relevant information at stake, is anything but easy or intuitive to the point that at present no computer, is powerful, is able to play perfect to go or chess. Poker, fortunately for us, is more like chess than the three-in-line, which makes calculating the best move is not instinctive or obvious.

Still, this does not force us, somehow, to do the calculations on our own to have a decent game. We can always have a good idea what the correct play through the work of other players, we transmit that knowledge, or through experience.

The experience is of course essential, but not much use to us to determine which move is best if the issue is relatively uncertain. If we choose not clear if a flush reraise or just call to make, it is almost impossible to play many hands base we will clarify. Another thing is to determine the strategy of the opponents, in which case the experience is much more important.

The knowledge gained can replace many calculations. Any NL100 grinder can get relatively advanced notions of pre-flop game, CBET situations, hands with which to call or reraise on the flop ... only based on the views of more experienced players. Still, the situations are too many to accommodate all without knowing the reason for these movements: of course lies in the calculation. That is, should address the fact that almost no one is able to perform calculations while playing a hand of poker, especially online where you play many tables at once: most calculations are done offline, and give us enough foresight as to adjust to many situations. E.g. I do know that this type of opponent in a river bluff where there is a failed project to 33% of the time, that tells me I can get to call a bet to the pot with any hand made. Knowing that, and having studied similar cases with other frequencies bluffing, and always bearing in mind that each type of board support at about bluffing or not, I can have a relatively accurate idea of ​​when to call, but not be able to perform effectively the calculation in the few seconds that I have to decide. That is, while having predetermined strategies (never re-raise the flop with TPTK, always make a continuation bet on the turn with TPTK if there are projects in the board, never making continuation bets without hand against two or more opponents on the flop ... etc. etc.) helps offset the lack of mathematical knowledge, it is almost impossible to become good players if we can not raise on our own calculations, at least not from levels and with some difficulty game, as NL100 or 200.

This, in regard to item 2. Point 1, given its complexity, will be addressed in another article. No, the order seems reversed to how to play a hand, it makes sense to do so, since it is more difficult to put the opponent in a hand to play properly once we have determined what your range

     
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Big Headache..

     
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the moment i saw it, i knew it was a copy-paste but took some time finding the real article Sad Sad
anyways welcome to BRM and next time dont post other people's articles Blink

     
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Maths is poker. Important, of course. But more important is to have a real good skill using a tracker program as HM or PT. Read opponents is better than know about odds..

     
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most of the math needed to play poker is ratios and percentages. A data tracking program takes some of the math out of the thought process by giving u insight into an opponents style of play.

     
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piracy -,.,-

     
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Posted by psycokiller:
most of the math needed to play poker is ratios and percentages. A data tracking program takes some of the math out of the thought process by giving u insight into an opponents style of play.



Agree !!! Don't fall in love with Math. Not always make decision base on it or we will frustating, tilt .
I don't know HM ( or PT ) help or not Sad

Anyway, thanks for the article. I appreciate .

     
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i <3 math and money, guess thats why im studying finance

     
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I'm mathematician and maths are not only important because of odds and probabilities, and all this "basic" stuff. Theory of games is one of the most difficult discipline in maths and there are so many things to take into account with poker that makes it a nightmare to study. But it worths it, it's the only thing I can say.

     
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Posted by ivanica:
piracy -,.,-


yeah this one.

     
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by ivanica:
piracy -,.,-


yeah this one.

In fairness on the site it does say, Did you like? Share with the world, and he did just that.

     
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Posted by B1gfoot:
Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by ivanica:
piracy -,.,-


yeah this one.

In fairness on the site it does say, Did you like? Share with the world, and he did just that.


He can't win. The thing with plagiarism is that it isn't necessarily about the 'stealing' or 'sharing' of the work of others, it is about doing it without providing credit to the original creator of the content.

And the reason he can't win, is because crediting the original author (providing a link or site name) would breach the BRM rules..

But if you're actually doing it because it's relevant or really interesting (as opposed to spamming for points) then you should at least find some way of doing it that is somewhat respectful to both parties (BRM and the original source).

For example I took something from the PKR forums once and simply mentioned that along with the user name of the person who first wrote it, without ever directly linking to PKR forums.

     
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Posted by BOLIVAR77:

Following the article by Bryce Paradis you have translated into NoticiasPoker, we split the game of poker on two fundamental and independent: 1) determine the most likely strategy of the opponent. 2) Once we have determined that strategy, the strategy we play more long-term expected value against the opponent's strategy.

The site that first used someone else work did it for him LOL

     
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Posted by B1gfoot:
Posted by BOLIVAR77:

Following the article by Bryce Paradis you have translated into NoticiasPoker, we split the game of poker on two fundamental and independent: 1) determine the most likely strategy of the opponent. 2) Once we have determined that strategy, the strategy we play more long-term expected value against the opponent's strategy.

The site that first used someone else work did it for him LOL


Haha yeah, I did see that actually.

     
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Posted by B1gfoot:
Posted by BOLIVAR77:

Following the article by Bryce Paradis you have translated into NoticiasPoker, we split the game of poker on two fundamental and independent: 1) determine the most likely strategy of the opponent. 2) Once we have determined that strategy, the strategy we play more long-term expected value against the opponent's strategy.

The site that first used someone else work did it for him LOL

only thing is it seems to be written by someone named sergeon

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Posted by SuperNoob:
Posted by B1gfoot:
Posted by BOLIVAR77:

Following the article by Bryce Paradis you have translated into NoticiasPoker, we split the game of poker on two fundamental and independent: 1) determine the most likely strategy of the opponent. 2) Once we have determined that strategy, the strategy we play more long-term expected value against the opponent's strategy.

The site that first used someone else work did it for him LOL

only thing is it seems to be written by someone named sergeon


Yeah, I think the parts B1gfoot highlighted are actually crediting a previous article.

     
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