Joined: Oct '07
Location: Philippines
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 1443
Wow, you guys are great. can earn something like that so easily while for me, it takes so much time, even more, my bankroll. i guess i'll have to play some more to become better.
Joined: Jan '08
Location: Germany
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 482
Av. ROI : 55%, 74% rox hard, i allways start playing SnGs when i feel i could start to tilt, just register fast at some 6$ , or 11$ at PartyPoker, i should read BRMs sitngoguide
Joined: Feb '08
Location: Ireland
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 136
Mines like 6% over about 500 games for a profit of like 280.
I suck at S'n'Gs though. Only play them for tilt.
Oh and sorry to rock the boat but 74% is completely unsustainable. Your just running hot. Its a very small sample size. Wait till you have 1000 played and you may or may not get a better estimate.
Joined: Dec '07
Location: Denmark
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 2644
Hey guys I play cash so I can't join this but I got two comments:
ROI: I thought it ment "Return on investment" but I guess it meens the same
And I think you need to play more than 10k S&G's before you can say anything accurate about your ROI stats.
But GeneYuss nice work that's a nice looking graph.....seriously nice work man Keep it up and FTP will headhunt you soon and yes I think you should step up if the roll is for it, like you said you will get same result by playing double buy-in with half ROI.
Joined: Jan '08
Location: Canada
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 2698
Thanks M3turbo, I'm pretty sure I can move up to $10 sngs but I do pretty good 4 tabling the $5 ones. Ya, I guess its "Return on Investment", I think I heard Rate of Income from someone else.
Joined: Dec '07
Location: Denmark
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 2644
Yeah when you feel like it...step up. I can see that you are playing "serious" which is nice to see im a grinder my self just a the ring games. It's some years since I've played S&G primary but I think I remember that it was posible to have nice ROI up to 20$ S&G without being the sickest shark. I meen ofcourse the competition get's harder but up to 20$ it's beatable...so go for it
Joined: Feb '08
Location: Ireland
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 136
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ROI=Return on Investment
M3Turbo is right. You need massive samples to have an accurate reflection of your true ROI but you can get a good estimate over like 3k S'n'Gs.
Edit: Just thought there that the 10k sample could be correct for higher variance games, for example if you play the 180 man turbos 10k is tiny! But for 6max normal speed 3k is fine.
Joined: Dec '08
Location: Germany
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 522
i dont know how to evaluate my current roi on stars.. as i made 200 games from august -> today my roi is about 9,2 % after rake ( based on the average buy in) ok i had 1 biiiig tilt week and lost my completly winnings going to -25$ .. i fighted back and now i´m on same level as before tilting
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 6483
Return on Investment.
And anyone with an ROI over 20% needs most likely to play a lot more games. Need about 1,000+ SNGs to get a proper ROI. Otherwise you're just not including your sick downswings. In a period of 1000 games, there's gonna be some nasty losing steaks in there.
