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I just heard about 22 and 23 outs..I thought 21 outs is the most you can have but after some research I found you can have 23 outs...I find it interesting. Did anyone else know this?

Edited by GeneYuss (31 March 2008 @ 09:20 GMT)


     
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9 outs for a flush, 6 more for the open ender, 6 more for live over cards. 21 all up

maybe someone miscalculated the outs on the open ender, counting 8 instead of 6 since some of the outs will be shared with the flush draw

to me thats only 21, unless maybe you flopped the full and they have no draws, then you have all the outs in the deck

     
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Probably pairing the board or something like that would give him some more outs, whoo knowss! maybe the guy was on crack and couldnt count properly

     
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Nope, I tested it out for myself. And there's lots of sites on it. Check it out at Berry G's site.

http://www.barrygreenstein.com/out-outs.htm

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KsQs vs. 2s2h Flop is JsTsTc 71.46% 2.50 to 1

Whoa, sweet! 23 outs on the flop

     
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I somehow get 26 outs....can't calculate right now...forgot to sleep Smile

Str8: 8 outs 4*9's+4*A's
Flush: 9 outs
Overcards: 6 outs 3*K+3*Q
Board pair: 3 outs 3*J

Mini out: runner runer 10's

Please correct me?

     
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Str8: 8 outs 4*9's+4*A's
Flush: 6 outs
Overcards: 6 outs 3*K+3*Q
Board pair: 3 outs 3*J

You have to minus 2 spades for straight draw and minus 1 spade for the 2s opponent has.

     
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Haha I just remembered the 2 but totally forgot spade/str8 combi. Good morning Smile

     
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Good morning, its good night for me lol. I'm going to go watch the end of Poker After Dark, my favourite show Smile

     
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Hey about that. Do you know if there is gonna be a High Stakes Poker season 5?? Sleep tight Tongue

Hehe "good morning" was ment in irony because I didnt sleep and fucked up the calc Smile but it is morning here.

Edited by M3turbo (31 March 2008 @ 09:33 GMT)


     
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Just to let you know ive read this thread, Logitech.
This is your homeground.

     
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Posted by M3turbo:
Hey about that. Do you know if there is gonna be a High Stakes Poker season 5?? Sleep tight Tongue

Hehe "good morning" was ment in irony because I didnt sleep and fucked up the calc Smile but it is morning here.


I'm not sure if there is going to be High Stakes Poker season 5, I've only seen it on Youtube. Have you watched Million Dollar Cash Game? It seems okay. I like watching WPT every sunday.

     
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No but please inform me Tongue I don't now why but here in DK the only TV poker they air is big tournaments at the final table. I think it's so borring to watch push/fold cause it's all about who wins that race ex. 88 vs AK.
So I have to download it all Smile in torrents. I watched all seasons of High Stakes with great pleasure, I love the game and even more I love the spirit around the tables. Especially when someone crazy is there like Unabomber, Farha or Hellmuth he's funny in his own way allways crying Smile
Poker after dark I thought it was somekind of tourney but it's cash or...?
Million Dollar cash game...im allready searching Smile TY m8

By the way about that tracker, I think you need Pokertracker (must have for serious game) mostly to analyse own game and Pokerace HUD to get the stats that pokertracker collect right next to their(opponents) name. Im looking in to PokerAcehud my self right now some of these programs are pretty advanced if you ask me but I've never been the best at computer stuff Smile

Edited by M3turbo (01 April 2008 @ 01:56 GMT)


     
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Ya, I don't always like to see all in like every hand. That's why I really like Poker After Dark, they show a lot more hands. If I miss an episode I just watch it on http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/23011821 Only problem is every6 min theres a 15 second commercial but I guess thats better than 3min commercial on TV.

Unabomber is one of my favourite players, I like his wife Jennifer Tilly too Smile Oh lala

Farha is very funny Smile I like watching him play, Tony G is my favourite too. I like to think my style is like Phil Hellmuth lol, just need some work.

Have you heard of the pokerbay? Lots of poker torrents there. You use Pokertracker? I'll try to get it free lol, I think its possible..but not easy. Is it legal?

     
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What about hidden outs. When the board pairs and ur opponents hand cancels out.

     
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We counted the jack pairing as outs. Do you mean like if a 5 comes on turn and than another 5 on river to cancel out the 22? I call that runner runner and adds like something like 4% in this case.

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Don't really count runner runner as outs, just add a few % when I convert outs to %.

     
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Not that it matters but Tilly is not his wife, just girlfriend lol

Also pokertracker 3 is free for the time being, as far as i know

     
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@GeneYuss you can download BETA version for free on http://www.pokertracker3.com/ it can contain 1000 hands so to really get max out of the prog. you need to buy it 50$ I think(legal to use at all sites cause it only collects info you could have collected yourself if you were a fast writer). This is where I appreciate my poker college cause I can get really precise instructions in which program to pick and how to set it up through instruction videos. I just pick the program from a video list and voila, I know exactly what the program is for and how to use it Smile
Jennifer.....mmm I feel like a cup of milk Tongue she can't play poker though!
Haha yeah Tony G is gr8 fun to watch but I don't think he's a pleasure sitting next to at the tables....pretty good player and a terrible mouth. I only think that mouth is funny when you are on our side of the screen.
Thanks for links I'll check it out immediately Big Smile

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Hehe im gonna watch Million $ cash game now s01e01 thanks to you GeneYuss Thumbs Up

Edited by M3turbo (01 April 2008 @ 17:35 GMT)


     
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Ya, no problem. I should download million dollar cash game too. I only seen a few episodes.

Pokertracker3, I'll try it out. Thanks.

Poker college, what do you mean? You go to poker school?

     
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Yep thats why im not playing much lately....trying to "invest" lol sometime in a litle poker education. I've read books, articles etc which have helped my game alot but this pokeruniversity is fixing alot of holes for me and must be the best I've done so far to improve my game...can only recommend it Blink

     
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I heard of poker college before but I don't think there's one close to where I live..So I'd have to move. Does it cost a lot?

     
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