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hmm by being arrogant douchebag you won't improve.. freerolls sux. Everyone whos already for a while in poker could write a book about bad beats. but it does happens to everyone from us! Yet sometimes when i look back in time, 1 year ago i would say it was complete luck how i lost the hand. But usualy when you look back in time after a longer while you see it from a different point of view. thats the good thing about poker. We all wanna improve. so quit whining and do something to improve.
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If other players who aren’t involved in any scheme have made it, and some of them more than once, that means the game is structured as it should. We know some of its weaknesses, like probably being facing some non-BRM players, but for now this is the best one can get. Instead of trying to move the mountain, try to climb once again. Others did it, you’ll do it to if you have what it takes. Good luck!
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It was just a suggestion and it looks like its not going to happen so i give up, i just wanted to contribute an idea which would be better for the general masses. To be honest, i would rather play against a table full of people over 30 years old than a table full of players aged 18-25 bring on the over 30s i say. In fact, my favorite players are over 30s because most of them are either loose passive, or tight passive which means they bet when they have it, and rarely bluff therefore are more profitable to play against. On the other hand, a larger percentage of younger players like myself are tricky and solid mathematically strategically and analytically oriented LAGs and TAGs. Eg, Tom Dwan, Ben lamb, Pius Heinz, Jonathan Duhumml and many unknowns. For the record, i play live poker every week the field is normally consists of 50 players about 20% under 25. And not surprisingly, most of the final tables consist of the same faces including myself and guess what there mostly under 25 because most of the older players are what i describe above.
Edited by Redvulture61 (23 April 2012 @ 12:29 GMT)
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Posted by Redvulture61: To be honest, i would rather play against a table full of people over 30 years old than a table full of players aged 18-25 bring on the over 30s i say. In fact, my favorite players are over 30s because most of them are either loose passive, or tight passive which means they bet when they have it, and rarely bluff therefore are more profitable to play against. On the other hand, a larger percentage of younger players like myself are tricky and solid mathematically strategically and analytically oriented LAGs and TAGs. Eg, Tom Dwan, Ben lamb, Pius Heinz, Jonathan Duhumml and many unknowns. For the record, i play live poker every week the field is normally consists of 50 players about 20% under 25. And not surprisingly, most of the final tables consist of the same faces including myself and guess what there mostly under 25 because most of the older players are what i describe above.
talking about being analytical your conclusion about the correlation between age and skill is biased and based on insufficient data
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well considering that every brm freeroll tourney at stars has at least 2000 players (if i remember correctly) you have a 1 in 200 chance to get to final table, so when you actually do not get to the final table it is absolutely normal thing- on the contrary when you do get there you are doing tremendously well
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Posted by SuperNoob: talking about being analytical your conclusion about the correlation between age and skill is biased and based on insufficient data
THIS
and also:
If all good poker players are 18, that doesn't mean all 18 year olds are good poker players.
He is correct in that a lot of the guys leading the way in nosebleed cash games have a LAG/Hyper-LAG style.. But for every good LAG/Hyper-LAG player - there is about a million rubbish donkeys that think they're Tom Dwan.
Also - While the hyper lags might be at the very top of the game - from what I have read - the vast majority of the middle-ground and even upper ground is still dominated by the old-school styles (TAG).
The idiots who want faster structures are obviously massive fish. If you want this, i would suggest playing the lottery instead because you would have just as much chance at winning that. How can i make the final table every tournament when i get sucked out on consistently when i get it 70% 80% or even 90% faviourte? What are you retarded? Arkim is also a massive fish thinking that you are lucky to be sucked out on what a moron. The whole notion of a suckout is having a better hand cracked when the odds are heavily stacked in your favor which stems from being unlucky you fish.
I'm assuming by Arkim you meant me, I don't have much to say as my initial reactions have already been covered.
I'll try to clarify my point. Sharks are obviously a more deadly predator than a piranha, but what do you think would happen if you put a shark in a tank with 5000 piranha fish? Fish win,
Lets not get off on the wrong foot, lets change the topic, what is your next poker related goal? Maybe we can help you get there.
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By popular demand? Oh - it really wasn't much at all. I was simply reiterating that all this is coming from a man complaining about freerolls on a forum dedicated to no deposit bonuses.. Maybe in different words.
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yea i love it how he ranks everyone just as bad as him lol I mean really playing freerolls and calling everyone else s**t gave me a laugh before bed anyway
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Posted by Redvulture61: I guarantee that the best player at MTTS and SNGs on this forum would be on equal skill level to myself at the very best. It was just a proposal, i guess you fish want to continue to play the lottery so i will let you be. The best players at poker are the people like aged 18-25.
We dont play them at all, you do. And If you think you are better ten me we can easly arange game. Only not for free... I do that only with friends...
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Posted by Flippedchips: yea i love it how he ranks everyone just as bad as him lol I mean really playing freerolls and calling everyone else s**t gave me a laugh before bed anyway
in case u missed- he plays real money for "very high stakes" (which he edited few min after posting) and is owning the live games too
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18-25
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Posted by Redvulture61: It was just a suggestion and it looks like its not going to happen so i give up, i just wanted to contribute an idea which would be better for the general masses. To be honest, i would rather play against a table full of people over 30 years old than a table full of players aged 18-25 bring on the over 30s i say. In fact, my favorite players are over 30s because most of them are either loose passive, or tight passive which means they bet when they have it, and rarely bluff therefore are more profitable to play against. On the other hand, a larger percentage of younger players like myself are tricky and solid mathematically strategically and analytically oriented LAGs and TAGs. Eg, Tom Dwan, Ben lamb, Pius Heinz, Jonathan Duhumml and many unknowns. For the record, i play live poker every week the field is normally consists of 50 players about 20% under 25. And not surprisingly, most of the final tables consist of the same faces including myself and guess what there mostly under 25 because most of the older players are what i describe above.
Will Tom Dwan at 30 be bad player Nice thinking there, when someone have 25 he can play, 26- donkey... I see how inteligent you are so...Im glad you joined poker world. More money for serious players...
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Posted by SuperNoob:
Posted by Flippedchips: yea i love it how he ranks everyone just as bad as him lol I mean really playing freerolls and calling everyone else s**t gave me a laugh before bed anyway
in case u missed- he plays real money for "very high stakes" (which he edited few min after posting) and is owning the live games too
lmfao yes i missed that!!! I ts amazing the amount of heavy grinders in the casino world come home to grind the freerolls Good practice i guess means, they can take cash of the fish at the casinos because they are used to fish from the freerolls
PS Redvulture61 go to a mirror close by, have a good long look at yourself then give yourself a good slap
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Posted by Redvulture61: I guarantee that the best player at MTTS and SNGs on this forum would be on equal skill level to myself at the very best. It was just a proposal, i guess you fish want to continue to play the lottery so i will let you be. The best players at poker are the people like aged 18-25.
WOW , there's a poker legend among us , thinking of sponsoring you , because your skill is definetly not freeroll level , so what do u say ? Will you give me the horror to invest money in you ? =))