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There's this €5000 guranteed tournament playing on KickOffPoker every day (I think), with €10 buy-in and unlimited €10 rebuys until the first break, then you get 1 add-on for €10 also.
Now my question is, how would you play those tournaments? Sit tight until the freezeout period starts? Or go all-in with Ace high, hoping to double up a few times?
Joined: May '08
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I hate rebuy tourneys, did play some but hate that kamikaze poker Allin with hands like A9 A8 KQ A10 K10s get crazy i think its not a good way to learn poker........
Joined: May '08
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call one blind so your on 1480, then rebuy to 2980. From there slowplay unless you happen to get pockets. If in late position early on in the tourny with pockets, call an all in below 1500. Chances are they have a hand like A9 or A10 and are trying to double up. Pocket 2's even have higher odds of winning heads up than AK suited. Remember this!
Joined: Mar '08
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Sir thats just so wrong its unreal, what is tha advantage of that??, u can just play with the 1500 without having to risk your outher 1500, if you lose then re-buy outher wise u may lose the lot to a donk and then you have to rebuy again, costing you unnessery, id say sit tight push all in with aa kk ak aq, if u get donked then u lose 1500 and not 3000 only do this at first few levels then play poker, no 1 wants to rebuy when blinds are 50 100. Happy 100 posts to me
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bigfoot, I think sirsq' idea is not that bad. He does write that only call an all-in from a guy with less than 1500, if you only have pocket pair in late. So if you loose, then you've lost less than 1500 and still have the other approximately 1500 left (instead of having to do the rebuy).
Now the good thing is, if you happen to get KK or AA or another great hand and you're up against a big stack, having only the first 1500 (without doing the 1480 + 1500 = 2980 trick), then you can only take something like 1500 from your opponent. With 2980 in chips you can do much more damage.
I think the point is, only take risks against lower stacks but move in on the big stacks when you have a killerhand.
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I like playing at kickoffpoker, so that's usually where I play. Not so much though, just htis €5000 guaranteed once in a while. And the €20.000 guaranteed this thursday.
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I see some logic in that i forgot it was 10 for 5000, if unlimited rebuys then it might be worth it for the big stack, but as I tend to get in big games via satalights I dont want to rebuy at all just an add on (yes im a tight a** ) Im gonna give this tatic a shoot as thier is really only 2 options and think the prize pool justifies it
i will often play without rebuying or adding on at all, and thats just because i believe the first 1500 chips you have are the ones with the most value, say you buy in for 1500, push with AA after 15 mins and lose, then do i rebuy, usually no because lets say 1/4 of people have rebought once, that means that the aveerage chip stack will be like 1800 chip and i will come in under average and have to fight to keep up with just average stacks, say its been half an hour and half of the people have used there rebuy then the average chipstack will be 2250 and the blinds like 40 80. i now come in much under average stack with much bigger blinds and will have to get lucky to get anywhere
i do like playing rebuy tournaments though because the play is so bad, i just think you get the most value out of your begining chips so i would rather play 5 rebuy tournaments than one and rebuy four times
Joined: Dec '07
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Call fold first hand insta rebuy + use the addon unless you have a big solid stack then the value of the addon drops ofcourse.
Besides that my advice would be to play some standard tourney poker ofcourse you are more willing to take 50/50 shots the first hour. Im not the biggest fan of tourneys especially not rebuy's, so I don't know what the correct strategy would be but this is how I would play
I think you have to decide from start wether you are playing to make profit or to win the tournament.
Joined: May '08
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Im glad people tried my tactic. It worked for me when i turned my free $50 into $700 (then lost it: see my other thread ) But yeh its as long as you only call up to 1500 heads up after your first rebuy then your fine. The tactic goes wrong when you get greedy and call in early position and somebody in middle or late position reraises you all in. Pockets against 3 people = not a good idea
SCDossett nailed it with the fact that your first 1500 chip buyin has the most value. Thats how i used to think but it depends on your style of play. If you play too tight with a low chipstack, a rebuy at the start of the tounry allows you to still play bluffs but gives you the confidence to call obvious bluffs. (i think we have all been in the situation where its late in the tounry, you KNOW its a bluff, but you just dont want to take the risk)
I suppose there are some people who once they have a chiplead are able to maintain it as the tounry progresses, and theres overs who play tight keeping to the average chips of the tounry untill the end. A choice of dominance or survival
I suppose there are some people who once they have a chiplead are able to maintain it as the tounry progresses, and theres overs who play tight keeping to the average chips of the tounry untill the end. A choice of dominance or survival
I have no issues with the first rebuy to 3000 at the very begining of the tourney, i just think rebuying to 1500 chips 20 mins in is a silly idea
Joined: Jan '08
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Ya, I've never really played rebuys and I don't think I have the right strategy for them. I think you have to play aggressive at first and be willing to gamble.
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No , the idea of rebuying directly is very good, cause at the beginning there are allways weaker players you could milk, and therefor a bigger stack is important any rebuys after 20 minutes arent very clever as the average will be higher than 1500 chips. This strategy is very commom and you will see it at any bigger tourneys.
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I played a rebuy tour on stars yesterday. 3.30$+R $30000 GTD.. Had played for 3 hours, went allin with 22 wanted to steal blinds, roundfold to me, 3 ppl after.. SB had JJ and I was out. 5 from itm.. Was so sick, I started with 1500 chips and did no rebuy or addon. So I guess I did pretty good anyway
You play 
) Im gonna give this tatic a shoot as thier is really only 2 options and think the prize pool justifies it
