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Anybody can explain me the logic in my opionion to many players would call any prefop raise with any two suited cards even all in and worse initiate raise or all in with these cards.Here i am not talking about AK,AQ. AJ, i am talkin about small suited cards i really dont understand this kind of poker.
Suited connectors are good starting hands but not all in hands A K suited A Q suited those are shovable hands was playing 100 iron free roll on 888poker tonight was running deep 21 players left had 9 BB get AK go all in get 1 caller flips over Q Q hit my Ace on the flop another Ace on the turn and wait i knew it was coming a Queen on the river and I'm out oh well that's poker
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I fall into this category by calling most pre flop raises with suited connectors. I play these type of cards because you pretty much know where you are post flop and the decision making becomes easier. I do lose quite a lot doing this!!
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Posted by vic75: Suited connectors are good starting hands but not all in hands A K suited A Q suited those are shovable hands
That's the part many people are mistaken. Suited Connectors often have decent equity against villain's range, especially vs. strong ranges. Hands like 87s will in % be close to a hand like A10. Being relativly short you should always prefer shoving mid-suited-connectors over a medium Ax hand, because you'll be very rarely in terrible shape with suited connectors, with Ax on the other hand you'll often find yourself with 25% equity.
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I can understand shoving a hand or calling an all in with suited connectors. The one that i cant understand is calling with any suited. And you see that in too many players. Maybe its because of the filed that im playing in. But really why calling with T2 suited for example or K5. I dont get it.
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since i am truly sh1tty poker player i can explain this phenomena from the sh1tty players perspective - i play suited card, any garbage cards like 27o, 36o etc. just because i feel bored and i want to be in the action. i know that it's probably gonna cost me, but wtf? i am here to enjoy myself and to piss myself laughing when i beat some random dude who was waiting for those precious AA's to come for 34 min exactly...
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So
I can explain that.
Many players are just feeling awkardly, when they are facing to give up their suited connectors, or even two random suited cards.
The reason is for example: I need to see flop and consider my option, my opponent probably have two strong hands, and it's very likely he don't have two suited clubs too, as mine
So they are calling and calling all the time, hoping to get a flush, even with runner runner flush, calling Yours 3/4 pot bets, getting You on tilt, and then simply write a chat message: well played
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Button, Co and LP you should be playing these if it is not to much to call with, or even a way to trap someone with premiums when they cannot hit. Especially in MTT's when you are a big stack and can afford.
You should not playing them all the time though like most people love to do, only at the right times.
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OK - I was playing in a comp earlier... I had about 5 BBs left and was very short stacked... I shoved with A2 suited hoping to get a flush or aces... Someone called me with a pair of 10s and went BALLISTIC.. calling me a fish and a dcik for shoving with such a poor kicker as a 2. ( I won the hand with a straight to a 6... which came in on the river) I know it was a crap hand and I got lucky and I do not usually rise to the bait when people mouth off, but I snapped and balled him out.... I called him some things I probably should have not... But I was annoyed.
Anyway - there you go - I shoved with Ax suited because I was short stacked and about to go out anyway... and I didn't think I'd get much better in the few hands I had left. I may have just flat called the BB if I had more chips to see how the flop played out..
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I'm guilty of overplaying these,trying to phase it out but i'm on freerolls and low stake,they are not profitable but these Russians are crazy. In any bigger tourney i play them with caution,if people let me limp in with them then happy days, doubletop is right,post flop you have it easy,your winning a big pot or folding a bad hand...gl all.. and doubletop ,you played it right,anything playable if you have 1 chip upto 10 BB then you have to push,well played and good luck... sorry i meant drawacard
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Thanks callie.. The bloke just annoyed me.. I know I got lucky, but it was the right thing to do - I was expecting to go out that hand... I went out 14 shy of the bubble in the end, but I am still grinding in the Omaha Hi/Lo game I had going.. pos. 3 out of 4 on final table from 191... I only entered it to get into the under the gun freeroll which required entry into any mtt.. lol. I often do alright on 50cent Omaha Hi/Lo.. there is usually one per day. I did get lucky in a couple of early game bingo shoves in that... people don't like it when you raise pre flop in those, but I've found, er, with certain hands.. you can get lucky more often. ... especially when it escallates and every shoves.. lol.. you know you are either going out or multiplying your chip stack by 4 or 5.. lol... need a good starting hand to do that though and you need to be prepared to bomb out if you miss the hand, so not advisable too often. PS - this works better if you've spotted people raising with rubbish alot too. lol
aaaand out in 3rd for about $10. lol. 4 hours for $10 is not great return for time spent, but my bank roll needs it at the moment for more buy ins anyway.. was fun too as I have not been able to play for a couple of days.
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I also like to play suited connectors (QJh is my favorite) either to raise or call some raises.Never call or play all in pre flop with them (special case short stack).Depending on flop further action go on.
These cards can be dangerous for opponent because they usually make raise with strong hands and don't expect to be called with small suited connectors.Make some good pot winnings with them,also some big loses.