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PokerStars Game #18864484377: Tournament #95822152, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2008/07/16 - 13:49:05 (ET)
Table '95822152 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Ned_bg (16872 in chips)
Seat 2: young_sam (24922 in chips)
Seat 3: THEL00000000 (28780 in chips)
Seat 4: C.DUNGA (39835 in chips)
Seat 5: lelefree (14934 in chips)
Seat 6: Manfred671 (28272 in chips)
Seat 7: bluntman82 (44105 in chips)
Seat 8: yann501 (104994 in chips)
Seat 9: dabruise (28815 in chips)
Ned_bg: posts the ante 75
young_sam: posts the ante 75
THEL00000000: posts the ante 75
C.DUNGA: posts the ante 75
lelefree: posts the ante 75
Manfred671: posts the ante 75
bluntman82: posts the ante 75
yann501: posts the ante 75
dabruise: posts the ante 75
THEL00000000: posts small blind 400
C.DUNGA: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to THEL00000000 [Jc Jd]
lelefree: folds
Manfred671: folds
bluntman82: folds
yann501: raises 2400 to 3200
dabruise: folds
Ned_bg: raises 13597 to 16797 and is all-in
young_sam: folds
THEL00000000: folds
C.DUNGA: folds
yann501: calls 13597
*** FLOP *** [9c 6d 3d]
*** TURN *** [9c 6d 3d] 8 of hearts
*** RIVER *** [9c 6d 3d 8h] 8 of spades
*** SHOW DOWN ***
yann501: shows [Ad Th] (a pair of Eights)
Ned_bg: shows [7d 7h] (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
Ned_bg collected 35469 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 35469 | Rake 0
Board [9c 6d 3d 8h 8s]
Seat 1: Ned_bg showed [7d 7h] and won (35469) with two pair, Eights and Sevens
Seat 2: young_sam (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: THEL00000000 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: C.DUNGA (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: lelefree folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Manfred671 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: bluntman82 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: yann501 showed [Ad Th] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 9: dabruise folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Should I make this fold in the future ? It turned out to be a bad fold but, from what Ive read if there is a raise and reraise infront you should probably bail out ! any input would be great thanks

Ned_bg overplays his hand imo if you had some history with the guy and knew he was over agres pre you could think about it since you have him covered(you would still have over 10BB if you lost to him) but still a bad situation since you are covered by the UTG+2 opener that must have somekind of hand when he opens before so many players. I think in most cases you are lucky to get a 50/50 here and often you will be dominated by an overpair.

That's my thoughts but don't put too much into it im a cash player and im a pretty fishy tourney player Confused

It's probably also important how far in the tourney you are and what is your goal get ITM or win the s**t Dollar

Edited by M3turbo (31 July 2008 @ 16:34 GMT)

Depends on the opponents and the situation. Your M is around 20, you do not need to force things.

Here the chipleader raised it up and a small stack pushed all-in. If the chipleader was very active at the table, than both do not need to have very strong hands for this play and you may opt to push also.

If the chipleader was playing tight, than you have to fold.

I would insta call if I didn't have the chipleader behind me, but like shokaku mentioned this is a situation where your feel with the table is important.

nice fold, is very possible high pair, in the best situation, vs high cards, your odds are 55%

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