Posted by
tonespoker:
I haven't played PLO in a while, but found that 3betting (especially in 5PL zoom) to be quite redundant with hands like AAxx. I always did anyway, but didn't necessarily have a post flop plan. I feel that planning your moves before you make then in PLO to be really important. In multi way pots situations, most hands have some similar equity/blockers for both hands. Obviously, you want to play the largest pot possible preflop with these hands, but that's hardly ever the case unless someone else is playing AAxx. I would prefer a 3 bet, as I think flitting with hands of this calibre should be left to situations where you have a read on villains tendencies. You get rid of a fair amount of his range, and if he decided to flat he'll be forced to play from OOP. 3
betting gets fold equity, the potential to stack off preflop, and chops a lot of his QQxx, 5689 type hands etc (assuming he isn't like me in PLO and is capable of folding potential wraps).
I'm in my ipad so it's a real bitch to get up hand converter, but I'd really like to see preflop equity stats. I have a little problem with the way villan played it post flop too, but once you pot it he is pretty much committed based on his EV, even without the nut flush draw. A raise to $7-8 can still allow him to flat, but once you pot he has way too much equity to fold given the pot size. But he might just 3 bet jam and you have to continue. He has the wrap, and the second nut flush draw, but his hand can potentially be his downfall. The wrap takes away some of his outs, hero is doing this with a pretty limited range that DEFINATELY includes a wrap+nut flush draw, sets, TP, sets + flush draw etc? it's pretty fair to assume that hero COULD have blockers to villains draws, but like I said earlier, heros pot bet makes the pot way too big to just flat. I think a 2.5-3x flop raise might have been enough for him to consider flatting, but if he's shoving this hand regardless then all of what I've said is redundant.
I'm DEFINATELY not knocking your play mahdrof (except maybe the flat preflop but I do understand it, especially in zoom PLO), but you basically made the hands play themselves post flop, where you could have taken it down on preflop, or on the turn when the board pairs (assuming he flats your flop raise, and folds to all paired board turns). This is all assuming villan knows a little bit about
poker, and given the stack sizes (some are huge for 25PL zoom) it doesn't seem really fishy.
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Editing my claim of AAxx raises being redundant preflop, meaning that people will come along with almost anything anyway, and shove to your lead on the flop where you have to fold almost all hands that don't hit hard/have really good drawing equity.
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Ok so it's 60/40 preflop and 50/50 on the flop. Hands playing themselves (assuming ya'll both know how to calculate EV). Disregard hand analysis, acquire downvotes
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Down votes for me of course.
Not a tragic end to that session but it diminished my profit by a lot.
