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Id just suggest tranfsering 100$ to stars and grind from there. That way u have a micros bankroll and dont over do it or waste your money. Then when your comforfable move back over to ftp.
Posted by StheP: you have ROI -48% on FT and you played there only 68 games... also you are new member there... so its all a set up
I like how you can make a claim that ''its all a set up'' based on me being a new member of FTP lol... Like I msaid I am not begging YOU nor am I begging anyone else to stake me...
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Posted by uno1Bomber:
Posted by BeMyATMplz: Lets look at some examples then - Your fellow countryman 'trekan61', one of the most solid MTT regulars, has an average ROI of 29% over huge sample (over 100K games). His best ROI is at $3 games oer more than 8K games, and it's 71%.
moorman1, arguably the best online MTT player, has an average ROI of 15%, and about 20% at specific stake levels he has good sample at ($50 rebuys and $100/$200 MTTs).
'eki87' is the only guy I know who maintains 100% ROI over decent sample, but that's just for micros, and he's definitely far outstanding. Sure 100% ROI is possible (for MTT players at least, for SNGs no way to get anywhere near), but not possible to aim for, for almost anyone.
Yeah, probably it's possible only for microstakes. You're right here. But at high stakes even 15% ROI would be very profitable (for $100 000 investment it's like $15 000).
Also it depends how do you calculate your ROI. I am not sure if I'm doing it right, but I use this formula for me:
("Bankroll" at the end of the year) - ("bankroll" at the beginning) _____________________________________________________ X 100 ("bankroll" at the beginning)
Oh, yeah doing it this way 100%+ would be what one should go for ROI is calculated per game, not overall. Otherwise one can be just super barely profitable but grind their ass off and would still have a huge "ROI", while they invested like 10 hours per day for something others can achieve in 2 hours per day Obviously it's just a number and doesn't really matter that much (except that you can estimate the profit you will earn playing 'x' number of games), if one is happy about their own profit then that's the main achievment
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Posted by steffdbird:
Posted by StheP: you have ROI -48% on FT and you played there only 68 games... also you are new member there... so its all a set up
I like how you can make a claim that ''its all a set up'' based on me being a new member of FTP lol... Like I msaid I am not begging YOU nor am I begging anyone else to stake me...
If you are a NEW member of FTP, how did you get that amount on there then?
Posted by arsenej1: Id just suggest tranfsering 100$ to stars and grind from there. That way u have a micros bankroll and dont over do it or waste your money. Then when your comforfable move back over to ftp.
I already have 1.5k on there bud I guess I will just continue what I'm doing on the other forum and maybe when I have the confiidence I will start backing myself
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Posted by demodawggy:
Posted by steffdbird:
Posted by arsenej1:
my FTP account is in normal $ not canadian,
...Huh...? What are 'normal' dollars...?
Thanks for your diagnosis...! Now I know the truth about us 'ab'normal Canadians...!
Lol I'm scottish I don't if you guys have your own dollars or not like Australia have Australian dollars
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Posted by steffdbird:
Posted by arsenej1: Id just suggest tranfsering 100$ to stars and grind from there. That way u have a micros bankroll and dont over do it or waste your money. Then when your comforfable move back over to ftp.
I already have 15k on there bud I guess I will just continue what I'm doing on the other forum and maybe when I have the confiidence I will start backing myself
Worst troll I've seen in a long while, you're not even funny... weird taste of humor u got..
Posted by steffdbird: I won that money on a very lucky $5 jackpot SnG on FTP I don't want to start using it till I can beat the micro's (which I can't do with my own cash) I seem to only ever play good at stakes because I just gamble when it my own BR because whats 0.25c to me just now :S
Truly 'Topic Of The Year Award' nominee and we didn't even left february... Damn, I wish I could troll on this level. Maybe one day.
Posted by steffdbird: I won that money on a very lucky $5 jackpot SnG on FTP I don't want to start using it till I can beat the micro's (which I can't do with my own cash) I seem to only ever play good at stakes because I just gamble when it my own BR because whats 0.25c to me just now :S
Truly 'Topic Of The Year Award' nominee and we didn't even left february... Damn, I wish I could troll on this level. Maybe one day.
I shouldn't have to but here is the screenshot when I hit the jackpot!1
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Posted by steffdbird:
Posted by StheP: you have ROI -48% on FT and you played there only 68 games... also you are new member there... so its all a set up
I like how you can make a claim that ''its all a set up'' based on me being a new member of FTP lol... Like I msaid I am not begging YOU nor am I begging anyone else to stake me...
first if you are playing 0.25$ 45 man sit and go, how could you make 7500$ from 68 game and massive negative ROI? And now you are saying you have 15K on ps... and I checked you on ps, you are only lil better than on FT... and you have 22,5k$ and need someone to stake you O.o come on... if thats true I am superman....
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Posted by bowie1984:
Posted by steffdbird: I won that money on a very lucky $5 jackpot SnG on FTP I don't want to start using it till I can beat the micro's (which I can't do with my own cash) I seem to only ever play good at stakes because I just gamble when it my own BR because whats 0.25c to me just now :S
Truly 'Topic Of The Year Award' nominee and we didn't even left february... Damn, I wish I could troll on this level. Maybe one day.
Posted by StheP: you have ROI -48% on FT and you played there only 68 games... also you are new member there... so its all a set up
I like how you can make a claim that ''its all a set up'' based on me being a new member of FTP lol... Like I msaid I am not begging YOU nor am I begging anyone else to stake me...
first if you are playing 0.25$ 45 man sit and go, how could you make 7500$ from 68 game and massive negative ROI? And now you are saying you have 15K on ps... and I checked you on ps, you are only lil better than on FT... and you have 22,5k$ and need someone to stake you O.o come on... if thats true I am superman....
That was a typo mistake I corrected it I meant 1.5k and I rarely play on FTP :s
.. Oh, yeah doing it this way 100%+ would be what one should go for ROI is calculated per game, not overall. Otherwise one can be just super barely profitable but grind their ass off and would still have a huge "ROI", while they invested like 10 hours per day for something others can achieve in 2 hours per day Obviously it's just a number and doesn't really matter that much (except that you can estimate the profit you will earn playing 'x' number of games), if one is happy about their own profit then that's the main achievment
I calculate it for myself and not only in poker. I think it's easier doing it yearly, because at some periods of the year it could be negative and I can be disappointed by that.
I don't understand how do you calculate it per game?
For every game or for 100 (or 1000 games) And how do you calculate it? Do you use some formula or software?
Nobody doubted your luck, that wasn't even in the focus at this discussion - no need to post more screenshots 'cuz nobody cares about that. But why on Earth for f**k sake you are still here asking 4 money with a 7.5k roll on FT is beyond me. But, maybe... Your stats proving that you are obviously not a consistent winning player so pls waste your own money trying to beat anybody on any stakes.
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All this money and u should be staking me. I got a negitive roi, play for entertainment and the fun of winning. Dont mind gambling or losing money. If u think im the right candidate shipper over. I can gaurentee u one thing, eather i hitter big or loser all. Theres no in between for this cat
All my stakes have been pretty consistent in + roi. But thank you all for your opinions I will end this discussion at that! I do apologize for my 'ludicrous' proposal.....
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If you have the money you are actually saying in this post and you want to keep playing poker hitting higher limits and being a successful player, then why dont you look for someone good to coach you. I bet with a little search over the net you will find someone.
for your diagnosis...! Now I know the truth about us 'ab'normal Canadians...! 
And how do you calculate it? Do you use some formula or software?
