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I found out these articles on online players using hacking tools to watch other's cards. This wain't fun at all. Supposedly they were using the these hacks on FULLTILLT and P0KERSTARS in 2015, but that doesn't mean it won't happen in other poker rooms.
Since I wasn't active in BankrolMob Forum by 2015, I wonder if I can get any feedback on this please.
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There were some stories in the past, like superusers in absolute poker. But in any case i doubt they were, or they will be in the future after micro or low level players When you reach pro level, give it some more thoughts
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yeah but the idea of playing low stacks is building a bank to move upper stacks, if I this is real, what grants me they're not these kind of hackers nowadays, you know what I mean?
If these guys have been spotted in the passed for sure they can build some new programs.
Anyway the article is real and P0KERSTARS has tracked these guys in the past, even compensating some players for their losses.
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Posted by H4Rm0Ny: yeah but the idea of playing low stacks is building a bank to move upper stacks, if I this is real, what grants me they're not these kind of hackers nowadays, you know what I mean?
If these guys have been spotted in the passed for sure they can build some new programs.
Anyway the article is real and P0KERSTARS has tracked these guys in the past, even compensating some players for their losses.
in several ocasion you hear that there was no problem with pokerstars... because it wasnt... he putted in doug polk's pc malware, and could see his screen... thats same like I would enter your pc with teamviewer and watch you play, and I sit to play with you....
------------ but pokerstars founded out by checking hand history... and see if there were a lot of suspicious folds by his side... like you got nut flush and oponent river something wierd like FH with board pair on river, and he check fold his flush several times, and situation like that... also they probably took his hand history from previous things that he grinded, and compaired that game play with game play that he used against doug...
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If this is possibke then I am scared to play poker, but i don't think this can be happening, maybe with some players but this can be because of virus in pc, some spying programs downloades by accident, and not there is some option by pokerstars to some special players
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Hey! Don't be scared about playing online poker. There are far worse things can happen than people looking at your hole cards. Remember also this is a two year old article and the world has moved on since then..... there are probably people watching you making out in front of your to by now!
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I think that poker stars of ful tilt poker have good level of protection and that players are secured from this kind things!everything is possible in todays world and hackers do lot of things,but still poker rooms must have high level of protection!
Yes as you say this has been happening in 2015, so it is old news and things might have changed now, or not I want to think that this is only one situation fro a million and generally we all poker players are safe, but if i played from bigger money i probably would try to play more live events
Sometimes it seems to me that the rival sees my cards judging by his rates .... but of course I do not really believe that this is at this time possible .... Of course if my computer gets a virus then it's possible but I'm not so good at playing it Use hacker attacks against me
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me ponders that this is always the case when i play bigger buyin tourney, i somehow scrape enough money , putting all my basic life needs like bread and vodka aside i always get some random duded peeking at my hole cards and end up losing even though i know i am too good to lose... so rigged...
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that should be avoided according to their department ,just what i thought that thats why theirs a lot of players keep on complaining about hands losing fixed that before we say goodbye
Posted by StheP: but pokerstars founded out by checking hand history... also they probably took his hand history from previous things that he grinded, and compaired that game play with game play that he used against doug...
Exactly. It's not rocket science to going after something like this, and if I were OP I would worry about malwares which seeking after credit/debit cards informations rather than the ones which peeking into your desktop screen...
Yes i remember this information floating on the internet a while ago. I don't really think that there is anything serious here, just some publicity for those who spread the news and that's it
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This is another reason why you must play in big sites. They have the means and staff to find and prevent such incidents. Especially when you play in poker stars or full tilt you have nothing to worry about. So far
Yes Mober is telling the truth- you better be playing in big sites if you want to be safe, but even the biggest sites cannot guarantee total safety, i remember i started playing in Ultimate Bet, then moved to Absolute Poker, then to Pokerstars... and i was happy to hear that all those nasty things with UB/Absolute poker happened when i already moved to stars...
I played today and I had a feeling that after I won some amount of money the game went a little differently ... as a poker room keeps track of me and does not allow me to win too much ... a long line of garbage cards has gone and I had to leave Table (cache game)
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I'm not surprised to hear anything like that ... I've played a lot of hands in pokerstar, full tilt and other rooms and sometimes I think I've lost some incredible hands that I only believe if I know they're watching my cards.
Now with such information like someone has some great software which can allow you to seee hole cards, no wonder that after strange bad beats or long losing sessions some players begin to wonder that such things might really be true. I think this is just superstition.